@Riot can we please just restart with Nidalee from patch 5.2?

Menchies·7/18/2016, 8:47:08 PM·23 votes·2,123 views

Now first riot I unlike some people I do understand that you guys didn't put Nidalee into the jungle because it "fits her theme" but because her laning power was just oppressive and boring to begin with. Now we cannot deny that this did make Nidalee very toxic and anti fun to play against, but when you guys decided to put her in the jungle she has never been balanced there and will not be balanced there! The reason being is that when you give her a hunt on the jungle camp her clear is just wayyyyy to speedy and almost no other jungler can keep up the pace with her allowing her to take way to big of an advantage, but the thing is if you take away something that makes her clear strong (the pounce resets, hunt on monsters, etc) she will just clear at the same speed of an average jungler making her outclassed by them because most of them will have some sort of CC to gank with while she only has damage and is losing a 2nd gap closer to gank with next patch as well. Think about it, would you rather lose a bit of damage and a stun, good slow (not the crappy 50% for 0.5 second slow they are giving her) knockup, etc. But now anyways lets get onto the main point, most Nidalee mains that aren't maining her only because she became a godlike jungler DO NOT jungle with her because they want to, but because you guys forced them into jungling because of how many hits top/midlane Nidalee have tooken over all the nerfs you guys have laid down on her because of her jungle speed. Now to us she just feels bad and clunky when we try and play her in the position that we have put years of practice into before you guys decided to change her like that not even keeping the current Nidalee players in mind and its really heartbreaking to see your favorite champion just change so drastically like you guys set her up to be in patch 5.2. And part of what allowed us to take her toplane especially before the rework and after patch 4.17 was because of how much time we had put into the champion, learning all of her strengths and weaknesses, mechanics, etc. and because we spent all of this time devoted to the champion we were able to outplay opponents (especially the resets that you guys are removing.) So please riot, nobody likes jungle Nidalee except for the people that abuse her, it's not fun for anyone else, it's not how most Nidalee mains want her to be. Please riot, I understand that the reason why you took Nidalee out of lane as I said before was because "her laning power was just oppressive and boring" but she doesen't have to stay that way in laning like she was before, you can change her, you can make her more rewarding if used correctly but alot more punishing if not. Please riot, just revert every change you have done from patch 5.2 on, lets get a fresh start going for Nidalee, and we can change things as we go. Thank you!

17 Comments

Marshbouy7/18/2016, 9:16:02 PM32 votes

I really want to read this but my god i cannot stand a block of text with no paragraphs

Battlecast Sona7/19/2016, 12:09:13 AM8 votes

tl;dr for those who don't want to read: Instead of continuing to nerf Nidalee's jungle, take her back out and make her laning pattern less oppressive and boring to play/play against, because most of the people who play her jungle don't play her there for any love of the role but because it's just the best place to play Nidalee right now (and a lot of the people playing her are only playing her because she's strong).

I think Nidalee is in need of a real rework, because her kit is always gonna be pretty oppressive to lane against since she has a heal and manaless waveclear.

EndlessCycle7/19/2016, 6:57:11 AM7 votes

I unfortunately read most of it, it's not saying much, just begging for something Nidalee related. He's talking in circles about her being too oppressive in lane but too good in the jungle but doesn't present evidence to rectify her problems.

HowPlayGAEM7/19/2016, 8:35:06 AM3 votes

I just want her to be able to lane again.

Shyvana too.

MrHaZeYo7/19/2016, 10:41:19 AM2 votes

I would love Nid to come back Mid, she was one of my favorite champs S3/4

Sire Hippington7/19/2016, 1:21:12 AM1 votes

Agree with everything besides "her laning power was just oppressive and boring". At 5.2, the first few nerfs already went through and imo left her in a rather reasonable spot, where were rather little complains about her in the forums, which was remarkable as she had a similar reputation as zed or yasuo by the time of her rework. And atleast with the spear nerfs in 5.15, she would have been rather fine. Her lane is certainly not boring, neither to play nor to play against, there is quite alot action involved for both sides, and by that time it also wasn't opressive(and if it was, that would have been rather easy to solve, and the first thing that should have been adressed is the heal)

NineTailedMystic7/19/2016, 12:21:00 AM1 votes

Can you not? I don't wanna lane against that since they took Ahri's E dash interrupt away.

Neidox7/18/2016, 11:50:44 PM1 votes

I main AD/Bruiser Nidalee and its glorious. If they buffed just AD Nidalee I'd be so happy. I don't take her into the jungle anymore.