If Light is so fast, how come Lux spells have travel time?

BranchofSin5580··137 votes·15,184 views

It makes no sense.

This is an insult to all the Scientists throughout the world.

Light Binding should travel at 3 x 10^8 m / s, otherwise it isn't a Light Binding.

It's a Heavy Binding.

A very Heavy Binding.

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Strawberrycocoa195 votes

In order to be capable of restricting her target to the ground, Light Binding would by necessity need to have a sizeable amount of mass.

The amount of mass in a stream of photons (such as a sunbeam) is too small to physically impede a solid body of mass such as a person. Lux's Light Binding, however, is capable of binding even a sizeable bulk of mass like a 6-stack Cho'Gath.

In order to perform its binding function, Light Binding must, by necessity, be a hard-light projection. Because it needs to have sufficient mass to bind and restrict targets in a wide variety of sizes and strengths, it is subject to gravitational and aerodynamic impedance.

Hence, it has a travel time visible to the naked eye, even though it's constructed of photons (light).

BranchofSin558015 votes

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In order to be capable of restricting her target to the ground, Light Binding would by necessity need to have a sizeable amount of mass.

The amount of mass in a stream of photons (such as a sunbeam) is too small to physically impede a solid body of mass such as a person. Lux's Light Binding, however, is capable of binding even a sizeable bulk of mass like a 6-stack Cho'Gath.

In order to perform it's binding function, Light Binding must, by necessity, be a hard-light projection. Because it needs to have mass to impede and restrict, it is subject to gravitational and aerodynamic impedance, even though it's constructed of photons (light).

so like, a Heavy binding?

Strawberrycocoa3 votes

Depends on your definition of heavy. ;)

In terms of "things average humans can lift and throw", it's missle speed does not suggest to me a "heavy" mass, but it IS "heavy enough" to be solid and to resist breaking when Cho'Gath struggles against it.

Compared to a sunbeam though, yes. Very very heavy.

Kledy McKledFace5 votes

You didn't understand. The guy is complaining that Lux's spells are made of light and should travel faster because physically, her spells aren't viable. But Strawberrycocoa explains that lux bind is made of light but physically, light has no mass (or a non-significant mass), so it shouldn't be able to root someone, but since it does in the game, that means that lux is spelling photons (light) but with a (champ de force) a force field (gravitationnal and strains) which explains why it has a travel time... The photons follows this force field because they are restrained into it (like a wormhole). I'm jsut a civil engineer though so I might be wrong

StealWolverine2 votes

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You didn't understand. The guy is complaining that Lux's spells are made of light and should travel faster because physically, her spells aren't viable. But Strawberrycocoa explains that lux bind is made of light but physically, light has no mass (or a non-significant mass), so it shouldn't be able to root someone, but since it does in the game, that means that lux is spelling photons (light) but with a (champ de force) a force field (gravitationnal and strains) which explains why it has a travel time... The photons follows this force field because they are restrained into it (like a wormhole). I'm jsut a civil engineer though so I might be wrong

While I guess gravitation magic could be used to explain the current functionality, it isn't needed. Photons while very small still have mass. Assuming you had control over them they could be packed densely enough to create a wall. Depending on her level of control in a roundabout way she does have gravitational control. By condensing light enough She could create her own gravitational fields. This could explain hey slow field, along with her ability to levitate during her ult.

FluxBound2 votes

Maybe the summoners of the institute of war are suppressing it

X8ViEhkPS0111 votes

Holy shit this mother fucker right here.

Screw that double rainbow joke, this should be a quote from Lux.

Ayame Isaki39 votes

Or a taunt... as she is explaining the science behind how she is going to kill you.

Strawberrycocoa14 votes

Sounds more like Heimerdinger's thing. :D

Strawberrycocoa5 votes

Food? Om nom nom.

StealWolverine6 votes

;/ Came in here just to explain this. On the bright side though, yay for physics.

Nahara7 votes

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On the bright side

I see what you did there.

CubedJustice5 votes

My theory is that lux doesn't actually use photons, but small inverse singularities, which project both force and light opposite of a black hole. The force between each singularity crushes the target, doing damage and restraining movement.

Strawberrycocoa4 votes

Ouch, crushed by gravity well. :(

RiotMaliceCity80 votes

*slow clap*

Strawberrycocoa9 votes

nods Thank you!

Transgressor2 votes

{quoted}

In order to be capable of restricting her target to the ground, Light Binding would by necessity need to have a sizeable amount of mass.

The amount of mass in a stream of photons (such as a sunbeam) is too small to physically impede a solid body of mass such as a person. Lux's Light Binding, however, is capable of binding even a sizeable bulk of mass like a 6-stack Cho'Gath.

In order to perform it's binding function, Light Binding must, by necessity, be a hard-light projection. Because it needs to have sufficient mass to bind and restrict targets in a wide variety of sizes and strengths, it is subject to gravitational and aerodynamic impedance.

Hence, it has a travel time visible to the naked eye, even though it's constructed of photons (light).

Yeah! Science bitch!

Strawberrycocoa4 votes

Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor artist, not an English professor.

ULTRAF0RCE4 votes

an artist

Strawberrycocoa2 votes

Doh! XD

RiverWind04072 votes

Am I too late to tell u how awesome u are?

Strawberrycocoa1 votes

Nope! :D

Sirsir23 votes

Why does Nami not one-shot Brand? Why do item 1001 make Corki Cassiopeia Anivia Nocturne walk faster? Why do Teemo darts affect LeeSin?

Strawberrycocoa23 votes

It goes deeper than that.

How does Ahri adjust her Charm to account for neurochemistry differences between the different species of the Rift to force a besmitten state of affection? What about non-sexual lifeforms like Galio or Fiddlesticks or Blitzcrank or Mordekaiser who don't have any biological system for causing "love" that Ahri could manipulate? How does Ahri manage to seduce lifeforms that don't have the biological imperative to seek out mates and reproduce?

Where do Gnar and Shyvana attain the mass to grow into a monster form? Chogath obviously eats things to attain his new mass, but Shyvana Gnar don't do that.

If Janna has the power to manipulate wind, why can she not scatter Yasuo 's Wind Wall?

How do Trundle Lissandra Ashe Anivia generate ice in a battlefield of perpetual summer?

DJ Di017 votes

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It goes deeper than that.

How does Ahri adjust her Charm to account for neurochemistry differences between the different species of the Rift to force a besmitten state of affection? What about non-sexual lifeforms like Galio or Fiddlesticks or Blitzcrank or Mordekaiser who don't have any biological system for causing "love" that Ahri could manipulate? How does Ahri manage to seduce lifeforms that don't have the biological imperative to seek out mates and reproduce?

Where do Gnar and Shyvana attain the mass to grow into a monster form? Chogath obviously eats things to attain his new mass, but Shyvana Gnar don't do that.

If Janna has the power to manipulate wind, why can she not scatter Yasuo 's Wind Wall?

How do Trundle Lissandra Ashe Anivia generate ice in a battlefield of perpetual summer?

That's ez to expalin. One word:

Strawberrycocoa2 votes

My League of Legends: Combat is Magic.

bobpicklebobs1 votes

The answer is coding

A Tall Joke3 votes

How does Cho eat a tinyass minion and find enough mass to grow like 30% in size?

How the hell does an ELIXIR, a tiny bottle drunk in like .3 seconds, make you grow?

ChaoticPinecone3 votes

drink a weight gainer and see yourself grow in size pretty quick

FluxBound1 votes

Mordekaiser does seek out mates (or at least has a high chance of possibly doing so), since he has a daughter, Kat. Galio doesn't really make sense, Fiddle doesn't even have a brain, but a robot that can laugh can also have lust right?

With gnar and Shyvana, they can be changing density or changing the air molecules into body mass.

idk yasuo 2 op

There used to be an old item called Shard of True Ice and most of the frost characters use some sort of variation of this. Ashe has her magical arrow, Liss has black ice and the others probably use true ice, strong enough to withstand the heat.

Strawberrycocoa7 votes

Mordekaiser is Katarina's father? I'm pretty sure that can't be right, Morde is a spirit older than the Shadow Isles.

FluxBound1 votes

yeah it's an old story that might have been retconned or something. For starters, it's not actually confirmed and maybe it wasn't kat, but it is confirmed that he has a daughter. In the Mac launch trailer for LoL there is a little doodle that has Morde with "I <3 my daddy"

The Soulforged2 votes

Katarina's father is Marcus Du Couteau.

FluxBound2 votes

and some speculate that Mordekaiser = Marcus Du Couteau

lDontLiftIcarry8 votes

Ha. Math jokes. You failed to comprehend the gravity of this situation.

JustMyBassCannon7 votes

Better question.

Why does Lux not have Shen-specific taunts?

Meep Man5 votes

Shen "Not until it catches a ninja."

Ronnie Law3 votes

I'd be more interested to know how she misses skillshots that have wave functions.

SyrupNWaffles3 votes

Thanks for shedding light on the situation :D

spicy lit plays2 votes

yes, totally agreed with the OP.

in order to that, pls buff lee sin's Q too, should travel around 1200km/h

Junkο1 votes

so 0,34 units per second? I'm fine with that.

spicy lit plays1 votes

nah 1unit = 1 meter right? so should be 330 units per second

how do i get that? well 1 unit = 1 teemo = 1 meter

Junkο1 votes

I feel like 330 units per sec is still slower than what it is atm (it travels 1100 range in like a sec and a half atm). So i'm still fine with that :D

C4KillerZ90812 votes

Shen If light travels so fast, how come it's never caught a ninja

Lux Excuse me?

WutsKraken2 votes

If Ninja's are so fast

How come Shen can be CC'd mid-taunt?

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