Lulu...This is not a healthy champion.

Astral Duck··4 votes·899 views

Can spam slow from long range, shield herself/allies/minions/your minions to harass with Q, has a long silence, a huge heal/aoe knockup, the only thing balanced about her is the passive. So, what should be changed about this champion? She's obviously unhealthy, kit rework her? Nothing in her kit besides her W passive and maybe her ult scream "Lulu" to me, do you guys think that there's a positive way to change lulu is essentially what I'm asking without destroying her.

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Hoi Im Temmo3 votes

She is definitely VERY unhealthy as a champion...her kit is basically:

Passive: Additional Damage Steroid. Q: 80% slow at ALL LEVELS. SEVEN SECOND COOL DOWN. W: One of the strongest movement buffs in the game / A suppress that allows AND ANOTHER SLOW. TO 60 MOVEMENT. 18-12 second cool down. E: A shield/target damage to an enemy. On enemy? Grants Vision, and when she Q's, pix point blanks you. 10 Second Cool down. R: Massive heal, Knockup, AND ANOTHER SLOW. 110-80 second cool down.

So basically - you out ranger her, and she can do nothing, and is going to have a negative experience; or you never get into combat, and she spends the entire game running and poking, and YOU have the negative experience.

In short, lulu has SOME FORM of CC (counting vision) on EVERY ability, and no reason to ever be closer than 550 range. Her basic attacks are the shortest range she has. Her W and E are 625, and her Q is 925.

HOLY CRAP. Now that i'm through that side of the pose, here is what needs to be done.

Passive: Fine. Q:Lower the slow to something reasonable - say 20/30/40/50/60(+5% AP)? W: Just - Just no. Get rid of the suppress. If NOTHING ELSE, this should be the flip side of her ulti (the enemy cast vs ally cast thing she has going on) - even if it IS removed...the cool down or the movement buff need to be SHARPLY brought to heel. E: Not too out of control....but give it a scaling cool down. It is very hard to escape a gank through the jungle if the enemy jungler know where you are. So make her DECIDE when to use it, rather than allow her to spam it from level 1. R: I fine.

TL;DR? Better nerf Irelia.

Sunfield1 votes

Lol excuse me?

Serpents Embrace1 votes

"She does support type things but also hurts!!! Unhealthy toxic champion!!!! "

Astral Duck2 votes

The problem is, she out DPS's assassins...And kind of shuts them down pretty hard.

Serpents Embrace2 votes

How is that a problem? Assassins aren't characterized by having high DPS. Nor high burst. They're good at getting to and staying on high priority targets.

Supports are characterized by their ability to protect themselves and others; lack of damage isn't part of their description and shouldn't be taken as a given.

Lulu does have some balance issues, but countering assassins isn't one of them. I think the bigger issue with her is how easily she hits Qs and that a lot of her damage is up front, not really how much damage it is.

Bensucksmycoc1 votes

okay so obviously you dont know why league created "mana", if she's harassing you with e q through minions then she'll obviously be running oom soon and if you're not counter attacking while her spells are down you're doing something wrong, its not a silence its a polymorph u can still move and lots of champs have cc deal with it, the aoe knockup heal is kinda eh maybe increase the cd so she either makes it count or she has to wait awhile for it, everything else is perfectly balanced u just need to know a champ before u start crying about her

The Crow King1 votes

Her kit is what makes you pick lulu, what needs nerfed is her ratios. The problem with lulu is that people are playing her in lane and she's strong in lane, but riot even stated that they're having a problem figuring out how to nerf lulu solo lane without hurting her as a support

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