As a GP main with the new AD item changes...
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Nobody's realized I'm broken as shit again...
Good...
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Nobody's realized I'm broken as shit again...
Good...
When did
stop being broken?
How is he broken?
He has 40% armor pen AoE crits. With bonus true damage on basic attacks. And missing health healing. But he has gotten some nerfs with his health and mana sustain.
%40 isn't that over the top. It's enough to still deal considerable damage to someone who's building full armor (Taric), but it's not enough to make it so that using armor against him in general is useless. The true damage basic attacks may do a lot of damage, but you're still rather squishy, and quite rarely a good idea to get in that range as him. It's mostly for deterrence than anything. And the %missing HP heals you speak of are FAR more based of of flat health regen. The Oranges heal flat amount + %15 of missing HP (Which at VERY most, is going to be a bonus 350-ish HP, but that's assuming you have no armor items and build 3000 health), which the level of heals doesn't really matter, because it's more used as a
than a heal. Even then, Gangplank takes HUGE amounts of skill to use effectively. Is he a strong champion? Very much so. Does he take a large amount of skill to use properly? Hell yes, I'd argue THE most.
These guys are far closer to the term "Broken". Hit the buttons, do stupid damage requiring very little skill to master. Gangplank might be a similar threat, but he takes so much skill to do it effectively and consistently, that he's only a threat in master or challenjour, and pick/ban in worlds.
Even THEN, Other than his barrels/burning sword/oranges, what else can he do? His ult scales off of wizard power, so it doesn't deal stupid damage unless you built AP like a mad man. He can pretend to not have had a rework and run around spamming his Q at every second he can and be useless. And what else? Nothing. His kit is very simple to understand, but very difficult to master. If we got rid of the armor pen on his barrels, I'd bet he would go to JUST above trash tier
%40 isn't that over the top. It's enough to still deal considerable damage to someone who's building full armor (Taric), but it's not enough to make it so that using armor against him in general is useless. The true damage basic attacks may do a lot of damage, but you're still rather squishy, and quite rarely a good idea to get in that range as him. It's mostly for deterrence than anything. And the %missing HP heals you speak of are FAR more based of of flat health regen. The Oranges heal flat amount + %15 of missing HP (Which at VERY most, is going to be a bonus 350-ish HP, but that's assuming you have no armor items and build 3000 health), which the level of heals doesn't really matter, because it's more used as a
than a heal. Even then, Gangplank takes HUGE amounts of skill to use effectively. Is he a strong champion? Very much so. Does he take a large amount of skill to use properly? Hell yes, I'd argue THE most.
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These guys are far closer to the term "Broken". Hit the buttons, do stupid damage requiring very little skill to master. Gangplank might be a similar threat, but he takes so much skill to do it effectively and consistently, that he's only a threat in master or challenjour, and pick/ban in worlds.
Even THEN, Other than his barrels/burning sword/oranges, what else can he do? His ult scales off of wizard power, so it doesn't deal stupid damage unless you built AP like a mad man. He can pretend to not have had a rework and run around spamming his Q at every second he can and be useless. And what else? Nothing. His kit is very simple to understand, but very difficult to master. If we got rid of the armor pen on his barrels, I'd bet he would go to JUST above trash tier
-Thinks katarina and annie is broken
I wasn't trying to call them broken, I was trying to say that they were very strong, yet easy to play. Emphasis on easy to play. You can just hit the buttons, and bam. Pentaskill. Really,
could all be put on the same list. They're anywhere from strong to Why-can-Darius-build-black-cleaver-and-sterak's-and-get-a-penta-kill while being very simple/easy to play.
people didnt realise darius was moderately healthy before the rework but how much he heals for 1 target is what is breaking him in lane it needs to be brought to 5% per person max or missing hp but remove how much he heals per target just that and the spike of ad on 5 stacks of his already damageing passive that procs black cleaver per tick those are the only real broken parted of darius' kit
That's the only broken part of his kit I was pointing out. More AD than a fully stacked Sword of the occult and infinity edge is just too much. Other than that, dunk away for all I care
When did
stop being broken?
He ate a Mango, it was not K.
Riot: "What do you want?" GP: "Mana sustain and CD to spam Oranges" Riot: "Say no more"
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WHAT IS WITH THIS FOCUS ON CRIT?! forget the marksmen update, they should be calling this the "critical damage " update.
It kinda is. They said when they reworked Ashe that they weren't going to remove crit as a mechanic. Ashe was not going to be an example of an adc without crit, but a champion who used crit differently. They are now making good on that promise by making crit mean more than just "I do xx% more damage now".
I do understand that crit was kind of pointless for a long time now and applauded riot for trying to give Crit more use in game, but it seems like everything is going to be about crit damage now. even
is losing its AP just so they can give it more Crit.
If everyone cirts, nobody crits....
not true because the more crit the more often you crit and the more crit damage you do if you have sucky crit cause you still have to build defense you do less crit damage and can essentially be the same guy with out crit and lose the ad and ap which sclae with spells and most people who used to use trinity were melee anyway only kogmaw and rarely vayne use trinity so lets screw the masses for 2 adcs
I guess it doesn't bother me that much because the AP isn't really being replaced by crit, I believe it's actually being replaced by the cdr that's being added to it. The entire sheen change makes sense to me because now the item is giving you the two stats that you will need 100% of the time in order to use sheen, cdr to use it more often, and mana to use it longer. If you're going to complain about the extra crit complain about it replacing AD and AS which is what is really going to hurt more, because a lot of champions go Trinity and then full tank because the raw offensive stats plus the passives are what makes it a great standalone offensive item.
so adcs already have 4 second cooldown on skills and they get 40% cd for having 40% crit vayne will have 1.3 second cd on tumble
These are dark times sir, dark times indeed .__.
i was already using that but now its limited to crit so while my gp may be op my yorick muramana is dead. sure most poeple dont find him good but i could make him work not any more now that its only regen on crits
Not true Now just rush Trinity into essence reaver and get 40% cdr.........and 40% crit which will prolly keep you in mana
like i said with gp it would be op but with yorick spamming spells and with
's active the crit prob wont come often enough to stall out at 60% mana you will keep dropping to 30 and maybe regain to 50% hp and it only take 5 seconds of in battle with no crit to only 1 crit for yorick to run out of mana unless you turn murasame active off
He still is?
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
No more nerfs before pre-season. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
relevant https://youtu.be/jFS4kqOYbAk
Again? kek
Inb4
puts you to shame.
hm.. crit gp with new essence reaver does actually sound terrifying... reported for OP
All I want is for Riot to make the Bandit mastery apply to GP's Q again so I can support GP. Please Riot. Please.
Again?
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Nobody's realized I'm broken as shit again...
don't you mean still? I've been banning gp ever since people got good with his rework
Oh, it's been noticed. Critgar is sitting in the bushes with GP. We all know they're there, but we're too scared to go near the bush to take care of it.
i doubt his ban% will go any higher. its already 100%


Are all going to be balanced this pre-season.
I don't get kat, lb, and annie
Well, if adc's are going to be op, whoever lives to delete them will be even more op.
I see your ulting kat, it would be a shame if someone with a knockback ability stoped it :p
adcs have been op for some time now and the new last whisperer that punishes tanks for building hp on the side of ignoreing armor will take care of any one pesky
What? Is Rammus not balanced?
He never was. All his weight is primarily in his shell.
I wanna see Death's Dance +
on
. I want to watch the world burn.
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Nobody's realized I'm broken as shit again...
Good...
GP is broken only people who can fight him is renekton that is it.
and darius
I just want old gangplank back. He was much more like a pirate. What pirate throws barrels and then runs into bushes? He's got such a cowardly play style now and it makes me sad.
You know pirates ambushed other ships to steal cargo, right? They don't just charge headfirst and start shooting everyone's heads off, they wait for the opportune moment or lure them in to cut them off from their allies.
######I think.
BARROLS BERRELS BARRULS
barrels
