RIP Veiger (U2 Zilean)

BradTaste·2/14/2015, 3:21:29 AM·5 votes·627 views

Veigar if you haven't heard, they are making changes to veiger... His q is a skill shot and no longer stacks ap on champion kills, his e has a 1 second FRIKIN delay and his ult got the nerfed as well.

Zilean the last thing poor old Zilean needed was to be nerfed to the ground. His q is a skill shot that deals no damage, his w doesn't work on his ult, and his e went from 2.5-5.5 seconds long to now an amazing 2.5/2.5/2.5/2.5/2.5 scaling.

But here is my personal oppinion to the butthurt item 3144 summoner 3 riot employees

I swear, you nerfed Zilean to the ground , and now you are literally ruining ANOTHER unpopular champion. These Veiger changes are horrifyingly bad. His q was simple like Nasus q, just point and click. Now you have to set up some stupid, fancy combo in order to aim your lousy skill shot and somehow (literally) kill 2 birds with 1 stone. And since everyone maxes it first, you also nerfed the cooldown! AND THE CHAMPION AP GAIN! This is just the start of the disaster you have created! HIS E FOR GOD SAKE! I read your last article where you said "a skilled veiger player can just aim the E and automaticly stun you and kill you." well I hate to break it to you but a skilled zed can just press R and boom you are dead. ANY CHAMPION IS GOOD IF A SKILLFUL PERSON PLAYS IT! Think about tf and taric, point and click, stuns. If they were skill shots and had a 1 second delay, they would be the worst champions in the game, like your Zilean remake and Veiger too. And then you said, "idc if he is dead! I'm gonna keep kicking him" and you nerfed his R and gave him the AP Tristana treatment. Guess I gotta learn AD veiger now in order for him to be viable. I feel bad for anyone who bought a skin

(Edit) I am not the first to complain, but here is something you can do to make these champions viable again

Veiger Passive: Instead of doubling mana regeneration, make it restore 2% of missing mana per second, like Holy Grail, or a mundo type passive with mana

Veiger Q: if you REAAAALLLLYYYY want it to be a skill shot then ATLEAST buff it. Make it a rapid skill shot with a very low cooldown that slows or has some sort of CC. You can lower the damage but make it apply on hit effects and deal 1.5x to minions. ANY of those work

Veiger W: If you can't buff his q, then maybe buff his w, or both. The delay on the spell drop should decrease a ton, additionally this should have some way of benefiting with his q.

Veiger E: Just don't change it... Or maybe, give it a damage per second type thing in the center

Veiger Ult: you want veiger to have no burst? GREAT RUIN EVERY BURSTY FUN CHAMP! So instead we give them a fighting chance, reduce the ap ratio, but make it a 2 part ult, deals half dmg first blast, then 4 seconds later, stun for 2 seconds and deals the second half of the ult dmg

I feel like explaining how to fix zil a little later

9 Comments

CrazedPorcupine2/14/2015, 3:58:58 AM2 votes

Zilean is way better now. His E now scales up from 55% pre-rework, up to 99%. his Bombs do less damage, but have WAY more utility now. His ult having a RELIABLE 36 second cooldown is WAY better.

Veigar's Q still gives double AP on champ/large monster/Cannon Minion kill. Other wise, I agree with all your statements.

SephAgro2/14/2015, 3:25:12 AM1 votes

A moment of silence please. Here lays the former Master of Evil. Victim of Rework™. #NotGoodEnoughForLCS.

Abyssphere2/14/2015, 3:30:31 AM1 votes

Veigar I can see the problem with but mentioning the Zilean nerfs while failing to mention the massive buffs is ridiculous. His Q doesn't even do no damage, it's a really small decrease on the old one. I guarantee you Zilean will be a better champ post-rework.

Fertsa2/14/2015, 4:04:19 AM1 votes

Veigar was given a ticket to useless island from the rework foundation. the rework foundation loves giving away free tickets to useless island.

DotEleven2/14/2015, 4:21:16 AM1 votes

I love people complaining about this because they're bitching about a .75 second delay on his Event Horizon when it's the same delay as Thresh's ult and I hit that while it being fucking POINT BLANK AND NOT 700 RANGE.