I'm curious, does anyone really ever use Font of Life? Usually I only ever see Bone-Plate/Demolish

echorev··1 votes·7,229 views

I personally like the Rune when my team has a lot of Auto-attackers, makes fights a bit easier when everyone is sustaining on targets I slow/CC.

Anyone else?

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Done252 votes

The secret to font of life is to pair it up with the Unholy Grail and the Ardent Censer.

DaveCale1 votes

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The secret to font of life is to pair it up with the Unholy Grail and the Ardent Censer.

on nami with her E she just E an ally and this ally gets everythiing he needs by using 3 aas XD

GrowlingWolf1 votes

Soraka

VvVVvV1 votes

There are some runes never used because they are put on the same line as better options........which is why they made the change and put magical footwear and stopwatch on the same line because they worked great together and saved you a chunk of gold you would have to spend.

Selegun1 votes

I take it on some of my HP heavy junglers. Makes it a little easier to keep your laner in the fight when you can show up with a red buff.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Font of Life actually makes Kayle support viable so I usually take it on her.

PhearBunny1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=stYEnQVe,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-11T18:45:41.740+0000)

Font of Life actually makes Kayle support viable so I usually take it on her.

no it doesn't. Kayle doesn't even build health you weirdo.

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

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no it doesn't. Kayle doesn't even build health you weirdo.

Okay. Let's do this.

Kayle has the fourth highest base health in the game. Clocking in at an amazing 2371 health at level 18.

Kayle gains 135 bonus health for going into the Resolve tree (270 for going into the Inspiration tree second) at level 18. Just to make sure we're on the same page, I'll go with the higher amount.

That's 2641 health so far.

Now let's go over her items.

item 3092 (+200 health)

item 3504

item 3107 (+200 health)

item 3222

item 3083 (+800 health)

item 3117

That's 3841 health.

Now, Font of Life heals for a flat 5 plus 1% of maximum health.

1% of 3841 is 38.41

Due to her items (item 3504 item 3107 item 3222 ) and due to picking up Revitalize later down in the Resolve tree, all healing is increased by 45% (55% on targets below 40% health)

38.41 plus 45% = 55.6945

Font of Life lasts for 4 seconds and the healing you get from it is delayed over the course of two seconds.

So that means we just double.

55.6945 multiplied by 2 = 111.389.

111.389 plus 10 (the flat amount on Font of Life) = 121.389.

Now this may not sound like much and you have to be level 18 and full build to reach this amount, but coupled with her already big heal and her ultimate that literally makes a target immune to all damage this sounds pretty good to me.

PhearBunny4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=stYEnQVe,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-06-11T20:06:34.255+0000)

Okay. Let's do this.

Kayle has the fourth highest base health in the game. Clocking in at an amazing 2371 health at level 18.

Kayle gains 135 bonus health for going into the Resolve tree (270 for going into the Inspiration tree second) at level 18. Just to make sure we're on the same page, I'll go with the higher amount.

That's 2641 health so far.

Now let's go over her items.

item 3092 (+200 health)

item 3504

item 3107 (+200 health)

item 3222

item 3083 (+800 health)

item 3117

That's 3841 health.

Now, Font of Life heals for a flat 5 plus 1% of maximum health.

1% of 3841 is 38.41

Due to her items (item 3504 item 3107 item 3222 ) and due to picking up Revitalize later down in the Resolve tree, all healing is increased by 45% (55% on targets below 40% health)

38.41 plus 45% = 55.6945

Font of Life lasts for 4 seconds and the healing you get from it is delayed over the course of two seconds.

So that means we just double.

55.6945 multiplied by 2 = 111.389.

111.389 plus 10 (the flat amount on Font of Life) = 121.389.

Now this may not sound like much and you have to be level 18 and full build to reach this amount, but coupled with her already big heal and her ultimate that literally makes a target immune to all damage this sounds pretty good to me.

that is just awful. I would farm your lane for free win.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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that is just awful. I would farm your lane for free win.

I see we are unable to come to an agreement here.

Ek1 Fi1 votes

Well lets take any tank support with max level around 5k HPs. In case of Cho, Sion or such, he can spread the FoL to whole enemy team instead of just one so that is 5x50x2 = 500 HP healing. Even to single target its 100Hps. Now comparing that to your Kayles, uh, pathetic heals as you got no AP to give good base level heals, I would also walk over you and your supported friend.

Like said, you need HPs to get it working or some other combo. With other combo I mean Soraka as I haven't found any other champion that can could use FoL to any usable amount of healing.

Soraka with item 3504 item 3174 item 3382 item 3151 is pushing 150 AP and 1855+300+200= 2355HPs. Base FoL would be 28 that is doubled becasue of 4 sec duration to 56. That 56 would in turn be increased by 8+8+5=21% to 84 HPs. Your 'max healling power' makes arguably 44% better job. Execpt. Hitting enemy with Starcall will mark them and because of the Athene+Liandry combo, hitting naked lvl 18 Gnar that has 1615 max HP would mean of around 2% of targets HPs worth to be transferd as Blood charges (32) that in turn would be used to boost the FoL healing, also enjoying the 21% increase of healing, thus 38,72 healing done addition to FoL. That pushes the 84 to 122 that is same what the 'healer' kayle build would offer with one less item. Except. Starcall can hit multiple enemies thus spreading FoL to multiple enemies with multiple enemies affected with Torment meaning five times more blood charges meaning 32*5=160 Blood charges generated that can be used for healing, again enjoying the 21% increase of healing thus 193, pushing the FoL healing from 56 to 249. That is 205% more healing done with FoL proc than what the Kayle build was offering. With one less item.

That said, if the rune would heal both champions, the one procing and the one marking, it would actually have some value to others than Soraka.

Now 100-150 HPs, or even 250 with perfect Soraka situation, is one basic attacks worth of HPs from someone that has zero damage builded. That is done over four seconds time while everyone can surely make more than one basic attack in that time, even Graves would do five. FoL can't even heal one super minions hit (even if it would proc from it) and then we have Demolish for a option that would do minimum of 660 damage on towers.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ek1 Fi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=stYEnQVe,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T02:01:41.157+0000)

Well lets take any tank support with max level around 5k HPs. In case of Cho, Sion or such, he can spread the FoL to whole enemy team instead of just one so that is 5x50x2 = 500 HP healing. Even to single target its 100Hps. Now comparing that to your Kayles, uh, pathetic heals as you got no AP to give good base level heals, I would also walk over you and your supported friend.

Like said, you need HPs to get it working or some other combo. With other combo I mean Soraka as I haven't found any other champion that can could use FoL to any usable amount of healing.

Soraka with item 3504 item 3174 item 3382 item 3151 is pushing 150 AP and 1855+300+200= 2355HPs. Base FoL would be 28 that is doubled becasue of 4 sec duration to 56. That 56 would in turn be increased by 8+8+5=21% to 84 HPs. Your 'max healling power' makes arguably 44% better job. Execpt. Hitting enemy with Starcall will mark them and because of the Athene+Liandry combo, hitting naked lvl 18 Gnar that has 1615 max HP would mean of around 2% of targets HPs worth to be transferd as Blood charges (32) that in turn would be used to boost the FoL healing, also enjoying the 21% increase of healing, thus 38,72 healing done addition to FoL. That pushes the 84 to 122 that is same what the 'healer' kayle build would offer with one less item. Except. Starcall can hit multiple enemies thus spreading FoL to multiple enemies with multiple enemies affected with Torment meaning five times more blood charges meaning 32*5=160 Blood charges generated that can be used for healing, again enjoying the 21% increase of healing thus 193, pushing the FoL healing from 56 to 249. That is 205% more healing done with FoL proc than what the Kayle build was offering. With one less item.

That said, if the rune would heal both champions, the one procing and the one marking, it would actually have some value to others than Soraka.

Now 100-150 HPs, or even 250 with perfect Soraka situation, is one basic attacks worth of HPs from someone that has zero damage builded. That is done over four seconds time while everyone can surely make more than one basic attack in that time, even Graves would do five. FoL can't even heal one super minions hit (even if it would proc from it) and then we have Demolish for a option that would do minimum of 660 damage on towers.

Mate this was 4 months ago.

Necroing is against the rules.

Ek1 Fi1 votes

Mate, still valid as a rock in your shoe.

Exactly against what rule? Replying to a open discussion? If you mean against netetiquette, only thing breaking that is your missuse of quoting.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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Mate, still valid as a rock in your shoe.

Exactly against what rule? Replying to a open discussion? If you mean against netetiquette, only thing breaking that is your missuse of quoting.

Go to the universal rules.

Go to "The Bad Stuff".

Go to "Spamming & Trolling".

It literally says necromancy of old discussions isn't allowed.

Does not matter how valid.

Ek1 Fi1 votes

Let me quote something for you:

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=stYEnQVe,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T06:09:00.419+0000)

Mate this was 4 months ago.

You know what has changed in the past 4 months regarding the things mentioned in this thread? Nothing except the 9% of decreasing in healing of your combo. Still the mastery works only well on one champion.

Do you really think its necromany to comment on thread that was created months ago that is still valid in all aspects of discussion or are you more rufled about the fact that FoL is more usable on tank than kayle 'healer'? What you feel is appropriate time window for a thread to be commented? A day? Month? When talking about necroing, usually the time window is years or if strongly outdated. Neither applies here.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ek1 Fi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=stYEnQVe,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-04T23:33:52.331+0000)

Let me quote something for you:

You know what has changed in the past 4 months regarding the things mentioned in this thread? Nothing except the 9% of decreasing in healing of your combo. Still the mastery works only well on one champion.

Do you really think its necromany to comment on thread that was created months ago that is still valid in all aspects of discussion or are you more rufled about the fact that FoL is more usable on tank than kayle 'healer'? What you feel is appropriate time window for a thread to be commented? A day? Month? When talking about necroing, usually the time window is years or if strongly outdated. Neither applies here.

Hey, I'm not the one making the rules.

I'm just relaying them.

If you disagree with them, you should take it up with the moderators.

Don't shoot the messenger.

As for appropriate window time, before the Universal Rules were updated, it was everything that was over a month old.

Which this post is.

I can only assume the window of time is the same after it was updated.

Again, reach out to the moderators if you still feel the need to justify your actions for whatever reason.

They have a Discord server here:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification

I Love Thresh1 votes

Supports

Snowman Arc1 votes

It's a bad rune generally. For one, it only makes sense to take bottom lane. How often do you have access to any form of CC as Janna, for example? Once with your W and another time with your Q. So, if your ADC is smart enough to autoattack the enemy you W, then it can grant 11 HP at level 1, which is ok, but then, at something like level 10, it only grants 15. The fact that it's very situation early game and very weak later makes it very unreliable. Instead, Bone plating is so much better, because it will block quite a lot of damage. Demolish is also bad.

Kurt Hyzan1 votes

Bard item 3504

PhearBunny1 votes

if anyone uses Font of life anymore, its Trundle. And that's about it.

Lafirenze1 votes

I play Lulu support as my main and I always build with it (that and revitalize), since glitterlance pretty well keeps it in effect most of the time on the opposition.

Salron1 votes

boneplating is just too broken to pass up for font of life sadly

Oleandervine1 votes

I take it on enchanters like Janna, Lulu, and Soraka.

CIayman1 votes

Ashe item 3504

:^)

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