Why does Korea avoid buying Last Whisper on crit ADC?

Spearlon·Feb 16, 2018·4 votes·1,377 views

Watching the last few weeks of LCK, I have noticed a distinct lack of a very popular item in solo queue for AD carries: Last Whisper, and I can't put my head around it. You often see Caitlyns running Statikk, IE, RFC, and GA before even considering Last Whisper, and by then most games are over. Often they fight by picking away at the enemy tanks, who are running Omen and even thornmail. I don't understand why they're not opting into Last Whisper?

What do the pro Korean teams know about this item that makes them avoid it so much? Personally, I have great success running it as 3rd item or 4th item if needed.

11 Comments

Critmaster GarenFeb 16, 201810 votes

because crit adc deal so much damage, especially with stattic crits, that it practically makes no difference if they have armor pen if you dont combine randuins and tabi specifically.

plus, a lot of meta adc the past few patches like vayne and kog maw have either max health % magic or true damage in their kits and dont care if you built armor.

welcome to league of adc 2016/17 and 18

makkiiFeb 16, 20181 votes

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because crit adc deal so much damage, especially with stattic crits, that it practically makes no difference if they have armor pen if you dont combine randuins and tabi specifically.

plus, a lot of meta adc the past few patches like vayne and kog maw have either max health % magic or true damage in their kits and dont care if you built armor.

welcome to league of adc 2016/17 and 18

There are honestly games where I’ve bought randuins and tabi after already having zhonyas+Liandry’s(ap Gragas) against an adc with no pen, and it almost felt like I hadn’t bought armor items at all

AleksaTeemoFeb 16, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=spRemqbQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-16T14:27:31.284+0000)

because crit adc deal so much damage, especially with stattic crits, that it practically makes no difference if they have armor pen if you dont combine randuins and tabi specifically.

plus, a lot of meta adc the past few patches like vayne and kog maw have either max health % magic or true damage in their kits and dont care if you built armor.

welcome to league of adc 2016/17 and 18

Dissagree with 2016 part.

Critmaster GarenFeb 16, 20181 votes

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Dissagree with 2016 part.

2016 was the marksman rework that also buffed the shit out of them. youre really gonna sit there and tell me they werent already dominant through the entire season 6?

AleksaTeemoFeb 17, 20181 votes

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2016 was the marksman rework that also buffed the shit out of them. youre really gonna sit there and tell me they werent already dominant through the entire season 6?

They werent.It was jungle carry meta and top tank meta when poppy one shotted ADC`s

Critmaster GarenFeb 17, 20183 votes

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They werent.It was jungle carry meta and top tank meta when poppy one shotted ADC`s

i remember cait being complete cancer, corki dominating midlane, graves dominating the jungle, and then repeating phases of kog maw and mf being pretty broken.

mfs kit in fact was strong enough that she saw play as support and you literally had 2 adc on bot lane.

season 6 had multiple marksmen not just overtuned for month, but also regular 2 adc teamcomps in different positions. so yea, it was pretty adc dominated.

Divine WindsFeb 17, 20181 votes

fuck I remember that graves period that shit wasn't fun

AleksaTeemoFeb 17, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=spRemqbQ,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-17T15:32:38.646+0000)

i remember cait being complete cancer, corki dominating midlane, graves dominating the jungle, and then repeating phases of kog maw and mf being pretty broken.

mfs kit in fact was strong enough that she saw play as support and you literally had 2 adc on bot lane.

season 6 had multiple marksmen not just overtuned for month, but also regular 2 adc teamcomps in different positions. so yea, it was pretty adc dominated.

ONLY by GooRila.And that was LCS not solo Q.Corki was not dominating LOL.It was all about azir in the early stages(even leblanc),ryze,sydra,karma,oriana etc.

KaìjuFeb 16, 20183 votes

High damage ADCs. Try doing that with Ashe and watch as you magically do no damage.

AhristocatsFeb 17, 20181 votes

downvoted for saying the truth

l MrD lFeb 16, 20181 votes

Its really not needed most games... it only provides 10 damage and the armour penetration is only for bonus not total which means that any armour you buy will be penetrated... so unless the enemy have lots and lots of armour then thats when its ok to buy... IE some Zeal item(s) and survavility is betetr than penetrating through lets say 1 or 2 armour items IMO even if you do upgrade LW .... but yeh if the enemy has lots and lots of armour throughout the team then its probably best to buy it