Doublelift did less damage than Hauntzer AND Ekko when he was on Caitlyn. What in the actual fk? Why has this crap been allowed to go on for so long? It is time to nerf tanks and their damage. They literally have no downside to building full tanky with an iceborn.
Weathered1 votesDoing more damage overall doesn't mean as much as you think. I can play a tank with Sunfire and sit in the middle of fights and skirmishes all game and do tons of damage, but never actually get someone low or kill people. However, an ADC can do a lot more important damage during team fights that actually makes a difference and kills enemies.
It's all about where the damage went, not how much was done. This isn't new news, tanks can do a lot of slowly fed damage.
Abyssphere1 votesEkko and Gragas were constantly fighting. Caitlyn did nothing but waveclear and put up traps all game. This seems about right.
Leblancster1 votesEkko and Gragas were constantly fighting. Caitlyn did nothing but waveclear and put up traps all game. This seems about right.
Cait did thousands of damage ulting tristana everytime it was up. Tanks do more than carries right now. There is no denying that. They are nearly unkillable, do insane amounts of damage, most have ridiculous amounts of CC like Ekko, and have no downside whatsoever. The only people who are against this are the same people who are abusing this boring ass meta.
Abyssphere1 votesCait did thousands of damage ulting tristana everytime it was up. Tanks do more than carries right now. There is no denying that. They are nearly unkillable, do insane amounts of damage, most have ridiculous amounts of CC like Ekko, and have no downside whatsoever. The only people who are against this are the same people who are abusing this boring ass meta.
If you look at my profile you will say that I play pretty much exclusively mages. I avoid playing games in part lately because the tank meta is so obnoxious. However, looking at this in terms of total damage dealt just isn't right. When the actual fights happened the tanks were putting out hardly any damage compared to the squishy people - Tristana did the vast majority of CLG's damage in game 5 and it was Corki and Cait bursting everyone on TSM's part - Grag did hardly anything.
Caitlyn ulting Trist every few minutes isn't gonna make up for consistent skirmishing on the part of the tanks and I personally cannot recall a single time in that game where one of the tanks got on one of the ADCs and actually burst them.
Total damage dealt is a meaningless statistic without context. An ADC who probably spent 15 minutes without attacking a single person outside of using their ult is going to be low on the damage charts.
Leblancster1 votesIf you look at my profile you will say that I play pretty much exclusively mages. I avoid playing games in part lately because the tank meta is so obnoxious. However, looking at this in terms of total damage dealt just isn't right. When the actual fights happened the tanks were putting out hardly any damage compared to the squishy people - Tristana did the vast majority of CLG's damage in game 5 and it was Corki and Cait bursting everyone on TSM's part - Grag did hardly anything.
Caitlyn ulting Trist every few minutes isn't gonna make up for consistent skirmishing on the part of the tanks and I personally cannot recall a single time in that game where one of the tanks got on one of the ADCs and actually burst them.
Total damage dealt is a meaningless statistic without context. An ADC who probably spent 15 minutes without attacking a single person outside of using their ult is going to be low on the damage charts.
Did you see in the fight near baron where Gragas goes for Tristana and nearly instakills her with a belly flop q and w hit? It was like 100%-5% instantly and she got healed up but died a sec after. These tanks are doing a shitload of damage WITH NO RISK AND NO DOWNSIDE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR WEAKNESS AND DOWNSIDE TO THAT BUILD. (Iceborn/Sunfire/Spirit Visage)
Look at Assassin builds: they are high damage with usually only a Zhonya's to save them or a Maw of Malmortius for characters like Zed and Talon. They do lots of damage but if they are caught out they are dead, quickly. AD Carries have high, consistent damage but besides a mercurial scimitar they don't have anything to save them. Both of these have a weakness.
Tank meta with iceborn/sunfire/spirit visage gets high damage, extremely high tankiness, tons of CC, and NO WEAKNESS.
DizTheGreat1 votesi can kind of agree with what youre saying but... adcs are are ranged (safe damage) and they have the means to do it... the game isnt as imbalanced as you think it is.