When is something going to be done about full tank Ekko's damage? It's not even close to balanced.

Leblancster·Apr 6, 2016·4 votes·610 views

I just had a game where full tank Ekko (minus hourglass, but still arguably one of the best survival items in game) did 36.7k damage and was nearly unkillable unless all 5 of us were on him. Even then he took a while to kill. We won, so this isn't a QQ thread about it being unbeatable.. but why is this scrawny kid tankier than Malphite, and doing more damage than a fed Caitlyn ADC?

There has to be a line drawn somewhere with clear drawbacks as well as strengths whether you are going to go bruiser Ekko, full ap Ekko, and full tank Ekko. There is literally no reason to run anyone but him with his kit and tankiness in the current state of the game. Something needs to be changed.

5 Comments

HongChongDongApr 6, 20161 votes

He doesn't deal burst damage but rather has really good sustained damage through his kit, plus with Undying grasp is actually a really good keystone on just about anyone auto attack related so that's actually where alot of his power comes from.

LoLKiruApr 6, 20161 votes

"and doing more damage than a fed Caitlyn ADC?"

Ekko will be doing around 1140 damage with his bases at level 18, assuming he lands everything (probably less due to MR), if your Caitlyn is doing less than that in terms of DPS, she is not at all fed.

If we assume Ekko is using the build which currently has the highest winrate for him (ZZ'rots, Iceborn, Spirit Visage, Swifties, Cinderhulk and Zhonyas), he has a staggering...... 100 AP, which results in him doing something like 1,430 damage before MR damage reduction. Plus whatever damage he gets from iceborn.

Full Ap Ekko does anywhere from 2.5k to 3.2k with his full rotation

Edit: And no, I don't play Ekko, I dislike the champ to begin with; so don't even begin to accuse me of "defending my freelo" or whatever.

LeblancsterApr 6, 20161 votes

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"and doing more damage than a fed Caitlyn ADC?"

Ekko will be doing around 1140 damage with his bases at level 18, assuming he lands everything (probably less due to MR), if your Caitlyn is doing less than that in terms of DPS, she is not at all fed.

If we assume Ekko is using the build which currently has the highest winrate for him (ZZ'rots, Iceborn, Spirit Visage, Swifties, Cinderhulk and Zhonyas), he has a staggering...... 100 AP, which results in him doing something like 1,430 damage before MR damage reduction. Plus whatever damage he gets from iceborn.

Full Ap Ekko does anywhere from 2.5k to 3.2k with his full rotation

Edit: And no, I don't play Ekko, I dislike the champ to begin with; so don't even begin to accuse me of "defending my freelo" or whatever.

Obviously hard defense coming from an "only Ekko" player. You forget to~~ think about~~ mention the near 100% MASSIVE time he slows people from iceborn, his q, as well as massive aoe stuns and heals as well as unparalleled gap closing except maybe that of Zed and LeBlanc.

LoLKiruApr 6, 20161 votes

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Obviously hard defense coming from an "only Ekko" player. You forget to~~ think about~~ mention the near 100% MASSIVE time he slows people from iceborn, his q, as well as massive aoe stuns and heals as well as unparalleled gap closing except maybe that of Zed and LeBlanc.

Jhin / Malzahar main, but anyway. Yes, Ekko has a very high amount of utility in his kit; I won't even attempt to argue against that (since it would be a losing argument to begin with)

Ekko's W is pretty easy to predict the location of, so thats on you if he actually lands that. Q is easy to dodge in isolation, but very difficult when you're already hit by CC; yet despite all of that, he can still be peeled rather easily. Its also worth noting that Swifties are a very popular boot choice at the moment, further reducing the effectiveness of his slows.

I'm not even denying that the build is somewhat strong at the moment, but it definitely has its issues (Ekko is a melee champion, he needs to kill his enemies fairly quickly to be used to his full effectiveness); otherwise you would see full tank Ekko with a significantly higher winrate and playrate (50% winrate 5.86% playrate)

And besides, my original argument was about his damage anyway, which isn't anything to scoff at mind you; but its nowhere near outrageous compared to some other champions with similar levels of tankiness