Lissandras Q

1sst Time Zed·11/24/2016, 12:04:45 AM·1 votes·651 views

So I've played many a game zed vs lissandra, some where the lissandra was terrible and some where they are really, really good. I think her kit is fine, except for her stupid q, such a stupid q. If the ability changed with levels, that would be fine, dodging her q lategame is, for me with boots or my w(when it doesnt have an insane cooldown) is completely feasible and relies on me not messing up. The problem with her q is early game, it has insane range, it's very wide and gets wider at the end, moves really fast, and goes through everything. Now if I'm against a good lissandra(which I won't know till 4-5 minutes) I can get boots and sacrifice better items early all the while I've been trying to dodge her q early and failing half the time because it is WAY too fast and missing out on cs because ranged aa poke with her q and thunderlords is just cancerous to melee champions. I get it riot, she has to be able to put pressure, but when I cannot dodge her q even though I'm near the end of its range and I respond fairly fast, there's a problem. Yeah it's not a good matchup in lane, I have to use my q for farming mostly because of her range and even when I do poke her with it which is really often it barely scratches her. But I'm also playing one of the most mobile champions in the game and having a very difficult time dodging a straight skillshot. Personally, I really think this ability needs changed, I can play around the spreading out at the end, the stupid range, the speed, and the damage. If it was not all of those things, I would have a chance at outplaying my opponent enough to actually keep up my farm early without a gank. I'd recommend people play this matchup or just against lissandra,tell me what you think.

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Handy Sandy 11/24/2016, 12:52:37 AM1 votes

Her Q is about the same width as Ahri 's Q or Syndra 's QE. If you move to the side right as she casts it, then you'll dodge it.

relies on me not messing up

Oh there's your problem. You messed up didn't you? Well if you mess up, you'll get hit. Can we change BlitzcrankMorgana Q and Teemo R because they also rely on you not messing up. Actually, I'm sure almost all skillshots in the game require you to not mess up in order to not get hit by them.

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If it's melee vs ranged, you're going to get poked out. Farm under the turret or go and roam. You're Zed, you roam right? Farm with your shuriken or something and wait until you get that magic ability to dodge. Until then, take the bandit mastery.

Leo102411/24/2016, 12:53:29 AM1 votes

Except Zed's Q has a longer range

It also does more damage

It also scales with 90% of his bonus ad while Lissandras Q only scales with 65% of her ap

Oh also Zed and Lissandra share the same cooldown for Q at rank one so if anyone's Q needs to be looked at it's Zeds, especially since your shadows can hit her too

and dem the facts