Can we expect a new Brutalizer item?

MajinBuutcheeks·8/21/2015, 3:33:39 PM·69 votes·4,427 views

I love the Brutalizer item because of the stats it offers and I used to get it on many champions, including Talon, Zed, Fiora, Riven, and Wukong. Sometimes I'd get Youmuu's into a second Brutalizer to max out my CDR and make use of all the flat armor pen, and upgrade into Cleaver late game. However, since the changes to the Black Cleaver build path, I find myself not picking up Brutalizer as often. I am a fan of Youmuu's, but it's not always my go-to item choice. Usually I'd rather have Black Cleaver. Right now if I'm laning, my options if I decide to buy Brutalizer are either having to get Youmuu's or selling it off. My question is, will there be a new item in the forseeable future that can build out of Brutalizer?

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Rebonack8/21/2015, 3:37:39 PM69 votes

item 1038 + item 3134 =Unicorn Lance UNIQUE passive: You gain bonus flat armor penetration equal to (percentage) of your bonus AD. However, this passive causes your basic attacks to be unable to Critically Strike.

There you go.

AD caster item that can't be abused by auto-attackers.

Reaper Review8/21/2015, 6:21:25 PM7 votes

If we do get another Brutalizer upgrade, can we put mana on it? Riven and Rengar don't particularly need more toys to play with.

Etherspring Blade

The Brutalizer (1337) + Chalice of Harmony (900) + 563 = 2800

+40 Attack Damage +25 Magic Resist +10% Cooldown Reduction +100% Base Mana Regen

Unique Passive: +15 Armor Penetration Unique Passive - Mana Font: Restores 2% of your Missing Mana every 5 seconds.

Just something I threw together a while ago.

Ultîma8/21/2015, 9:32:02 PM4 votes

If people would be willing to lose the 80 AD on it, it might be an interesting build option for Essence Reaver if the item gets reworked. Armor penetration, cooldown reduction, a better passive... it would become a lot more attractive for its intended buyers; mana-gated AD casters.

pacifishstick8/21/2015, 7:15:11 PM3 votes

the Black Cleaver recipe should have been Brutalizer + Phage. Never understood why it wasn't.

Cloud Potato8/22/2015, 3:45:25 AM2 votes

Brutalizer is pretty strong, so good build paths aren't likely. It's a shame too, since CDR on AD is so uncommon (at least we got Black Cleaver now).

The Loveless8/21/2015, 8:10:55 PM2 votes

I feel like there should definitely be more [low damage] options for penetration of both damage types, since there are also many ways to build defense. You don't want people stacking pen, but there should also be cool and unique things each pen item gives.

Unless Riot plans to make Essence Reaver an actual top tier go-to item, I think ER should give vamp & a little bit of pen on top of the cdr. I currently tend to build it with BC to get close to max CDR on caster types, but there's no denying how useless the mana refund passive is, and how much better BT is in general.

jjookkeerr8/22/2015, 1:59:20 AM1 votes

because armor is in need of another nerf

Venowolf8/22/2015, 6:18:22 PM1 votes

item 3136 This one need another upgrade too, I'm enjoy the Trickster's Glass...

Phife8/21/2015, 6:10:34 PM1 votes

No, youumuus is the only item i will ever use.

Axis the Dragon8/23/2015, 2:28:46 AM1 votes

Since we don't want Riven and Rengar to have a new armor pen item to abuse, I'm thinking this new item needs some sort of gate for them - the most logical being Mana, naturally - but, barring the existence of a new Mana item, this is the only thing I could think of:

item 3134 (1337) + item 1027 (400) + item 1038 (1550) + 113 =

Demon's Spike +80 AD +250 Mana UNIQUE Passive: +10% Cooldown Reduction UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration UNIQUE Passive: Spells ignore an additional flat amount of Armor based on Max. Mana (Maybe something like 0.5% - with 3000 Mana, that's about 15 Flat Armor Pen)

It'd be cool if there was another pure Mana item that built out of Sapphire Crystal not named Tear of the Goddess :x

My only problem with this new item is that some Champions may like this item a bit too much ( Talon and MonkeyKing , I'm talking about you guys) but it may also bring about the resurgence of the OG AD Caster: Pantheon !

Sakura Mirage8/21/2015, 4:05:20 PM1 votes

Or you could just run CDR runes to compensate for no brut.

OyddAWqJ5r8/22/2015, 1:15:05 AM1 votes

I do believe that given it's only buildpath is into Youmuu's, which is currently an ADC item, that Brutalizer will be receiving some updates in the form of cost/stat and final build changes in the upcoming ADC itemization changes.