Black Market Brawler Items

MajinBuutcheeks··47 votes·6,172 views

One of the main reasons I enjoy this mode so much is because of the introduction of new items (Trickster's Glass especially. Nothing more fun than copying my low HP adc and get sucked into enemy team to suddenly turn back into Galio and ult everyone :D). Was wondering if there's a chance some of the items might make it into regular Summoner's Rift (maybe not exactly the same stats/abilities) in the future.

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LordTekron21 votes

I am content if at the very least Dead Man's Plate item 3742 stays in the game, because that item is hella fun to use and it's got good stats all around.

BEEP BEEP IT'S THE TAHM KENCH TAXI HERE TO PICK UP IT'S NEXT MEAL PASSENGER!

Mugoi Oni2 votes

I totally agree! Dead Man's Plate has some sick stats to it.

Plus the animation effects that come with it are just as cool! Riot please keep these items on the rift... item 3742

Misplaced Faith2 votes

Omg, Dead Man's Plate on Nasus......I love these new items.

Mugoi Oni1 votes

Nasus is a beast with DMP equipped. You should see Hecarim though haha. This is too much awesomeness! Riot! Please keep em!

Sinlaire3 votes

I'm surprised no one seems to have mentioned the item 3844 .

it's a shield that comes up every 15 seconds that gives you gold every time you take damage while it's up.

I played Nami twice with this thing and i would walk into the enemy, pop the shield and wait for them to hit me. i ate their damage, got paid for it, then used ebb and flow to hurt them and heal off everything they did to me.

if they wouldn't hit me i'd go harass the minions since minion damage counts for payment too. often left me charging into new waves of minions and getting free money for nearly zero damage.

at max level it shield ALL nearby allies for 150 damage and pays you up to 100 gold per cast. stil at 15 second cooldown.

Oh and dragon and Baron? prepare to get paid. shield everyone taking damage every time it comes up and let it rain.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

I do think item 3840 should become a new support Item, though I think it could use more than just 20% cooldown and 150% base mana regen. I did the same thing with Nami and I kept getting killed due to my lack of protection. I had to change my item set because I realised I needed item 3092 for it's AP and the frost shot for escapes and making my bubble hit easier.

StoryDuck1 votes

Try it with Taric, It's like the perfect item for him. Shield, walk at em, either stun em or get some gold maybe both AA walk out with high Def, cast Q if ya took a bit too much damage. or just shield your ADC when you start to run low on mana (which happens all the time) allowing you to have an impact in lane.

Windup9 votes

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MajinBuutcheeks1 votes

I have yet to try that item out, but it seems cool. But isn't the pull really tiny? Like 250 units or something? It sounds a little underwhelming.

Gavran1 votes

Bigger than Diana's, and Diana's is still useful ... wait, does that mean it's actually displacement? Yasuo ults? Haven't seen it in use yet...

MajinBuutcheeks1 votes

That would be insane O_O but isn't yasuo's ult for knock up only, and not just any displacement?

Treyen4 votes

most displacements seem to work, alistar W for example can be yasuo ulted

Davy Crockett1 votes

its 1k

Sinlaire1 votes

the range is 1k. the actual pull distance in units is like 250 is what he was asking.

sp4411 votes

Trust me, the ability to pull a champion from anywhere in 1000 units is SO useful, even if the distance isn't a lot. You can interrupt channels, save your allies, open up opportunities for them to strike, stop escapes, amongst other uses.

Pikmints5 votes

I really like how Riot's experimenting with actives and passives as it makes items more than just a picture of stats. Netherstride Grimoire on Malzahar makes it so that he can actually move now. E a minion wave and roam to another lane like it's nothing. You can run away from people/catch up to people by attacking a minion wave/laying your W in the way of your chasing foes.

7ha7guy7771 votes

It's insane on him. I had a 15 kill streak as him earlier because of it

MajinBuutcheeks1 votes

Holy crap that's nuts. im going to have to give that a try. too bad i suck with malz

7ha7guy7771 votes

To be fair, it was a mirror match, they had no tanks other than a vlad, they only had 2 stuns (aegis and condemn), i'm kind of a malz main, and i'm pretty sure i'm low elo (unranked). I basically just put my abilities down then ran away while waiting for cooldowns they repeated during team fights. It was incredibly effective when comboed with rylai's. I was also communicating with the jungler and top laner on skype. I can post the match if you want. Apparently the highest ranked guy on their team was Silver V so maybe not so impressive.

Raid Boss Morde5 votes

I've been going Mordekaiser and using item 3829... it's the funniest thing... ever. The general rule to fighting Mordekaiser is to stay away from him. Well, use this item on your ADC or anyone who's low health on your team. Get out of position or wander off into their jung. When someone jumps on you, burst them down instantly and laugh at their corpse ghost!

MajinBuutcheeks2 votes

LOL! Oh hey, let's get that Janna. C'mere you little- WTF MY HP MORDE WUT

A Miss Fortune4 votes

I like a lot of the items except the AD Items. I'd be fine if some of the Utility/Tank/Magic items were implemented though.

item 3150 Pretty useless since most high costing items only cost like 300 - 500 more and are significantly better. Plus the active is just useless in most cases unless you can predict a projectile skillshot and they don't turn around? I guess?

item 3652 Not really that useful aside from the passive, but even that is not the best unless you're playing someone like Vayne or Kalista?

MajinBuutcheeks4 votes

Yeah the AD items aren't that great, although item 3924's sustain is pretty annoying to deal with in lane from my experience.

WolfBV3 votes

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Yeah the AD items aren't that great, although item 3924's sustain is pretty annoying to deal with in lane from my experience.

It's like a nasus Q but you can buy it so is great! :D

MajinBuutcheeks1 votes

why not both? nasus with flesheater? O.O scary stuff

sp4411 votes

Not really that great, since Flesheater will most likely kill a minion, and Nasus needs to stack his Q.

NineTailedMystic2 votes

Flesheater is one of the more broken items in BMB. 200 + 75% AD true damage is insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane.

MajinBuutcheeks2 votes

Thank god it's only to minions. but that heal thoughh ugh

sp4411 votes

And then about 10 minutes later they have about a thousand AD.

Thank god ranged champions can't use it.

kile1472 votes

That weapon is OP on Sion, it gives him inf scaling AD and good sustain so that late game he can have 300 AD with 4k health and like 200 resistances.

Baron of Bread2 votes

item 3652 don't seem to affect on hit effect damage, so that's pretty nice. It can be pretty good on Aatrox or WW.

Sinlaire1 votes

its bad on aatrox actually. it doesnt allow his passive to scale and it doesnt let him proc his W with the extra attacks. he's better off just building his normal route and just proc'ing his passives like normal over this. i tried several times last night and it was actually more of a hindrance than a help.

NapaIm7 votes

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I like a lot of the items except the AD Items. I'd be fine if some of the Utility/Tank/Magic items were implemented though.

item 3150 Pretty useless since most high costing items only cost like 300 - 500 more and are significantly better. Plus the active is just useless in most cases unless you can predict a projectile skillshot and they don't turn around? I guess?

item 3652 Not really that useful aside from the passive, but even that is not the best unless you're playing someone like Vayne or Kalista?

Mirage Blade is great on an adc who has no escape.

rampaging poet3 votes

This. The crit chance also means you'll deal more damage than if you had a Bloodthirster, and I'd rather have the flash than the extra lifesteal. Also, it doesn't build out of BF sword so it's easier to progress toward.

Narasimha1 votes

item 3652 Not really that useful aside from the passive, but even that is not the best unless you're playing someone like Vayne or Kalista?

It's good on anyone who like on-hits effects. So Devourer junglers, Vi, Jax, etc.

TheAlabrehon3 votes

If you have Sated Devourer the item's passive won't work because the passives have the same name.

Sinlaire1 votes

Typhoon claws is terribly underwhelming. it seems nice but other than the two listed it's not terribly useful,

i tried to see if it had any synergy with Aatrox but apparently the 3 hits it gives you proc no on hits effects, so it doesnt stack his passive and it doesn't activate his W. Whcih means anyone else with a passive on hit takes no benefit from it either like XinZhao Nocturne .

Baron of Bread1 votes

It works with Elise and Kayle's on hits. I think (needs testing) that it functions as one attack but 3 hits.

It also doesn't work with Sated. Which I found massively disappointing but probably a good call for balance.

Cronofuge3 votes

Vayne item 3652 What's a tank? Never heard of 'em.

On a side note: The typhoon claws proc is actually delivered at around 7.5 APS even though the auto attack cast time of 2.5 is used and displayed.

aaronconlin1 votes

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Vayne item 3652 What's a tank? Never heard of 'em.

On a side note: The typhoon claws proc is actually delivered at around 7.5 APS even though the auto attack cast time of 2.5 is used and displayed.

item 3652 item 3718 item 3153 Oh god

Need Gold 4 Tent2 votes

phantom hit doesnt stack with phantom hit unfortunately, so no sated typhoon combo

sp4412 votes

I really hope that they eventually make their way into the game one way or the other. They're tons of fun and add a lot of dimension and strategy to item-making.

Of course, lots of them could use a few nerfs if they become part of the main game, but still, I'd love to have them.

I mean, item 3745 is the perfect solution against hyper-slippery champions like Kalista. It'd go a long way to countering mobility creep.

Zyorhist1 votes

this is my favorite of all the items

I'd love to see it as a melee only though.

sp4411 votes

Eh, I think it should remain ranged so that it's still useful for ranged supports. Maybe reduce the string time for ranged champions, so that they can only effectively pull one champion.

Still, have you noticed that nobody gives half a shit about the upgraded minions, and everybody is salivating at the mouth at the sight of these items?

I just find it funny that the main feature of the game mode is treated as an unnecessary side dish.

Zyorhist1 votes

I'd rather keep the varied minions, it adds a new level of difficulty and diversity to the game

Chaotic Reks1 votes

at least keep item 3742 item 3829 item 3840 item 3911

Confron7a7ion73 votes

item 3742 may be my favorite out of all of them. I usually play tanky champs though so I may be biased.

Tyaldan1 votes

Its fun on Shaco too, replaces my go to item im getting burst too fast of randuins. 100 extra damage, 60 extra movespeed. Nothing like roaming around at 520 flat speed popping out of stealth and going DONG on someone. Or ringing the bell on an inhib or something.

SoMNia1 votes

I hope so. New support item line seems cool, and Flesheater. And basically all of the AP items. They'd obviously need major balance tweaks, but the ideas are nice.

Vekkna2 votes

Flesheater Nasus so broken tho. LIke it makes Nasus 100% pick or ban.

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