The state of teemo.

FenjaminBranklen·2/12/2020, 8:06:49 PM·5 votes·2,361 views

So i know i keep making "teemo is underpowered" threads, but this really speaks to what's wrong with him. I stopped playing him all the time when i'm top. Now i play ap shaco. Since the last time i Played shaco, his abilities all been tweaked again. And now I'm doing better. I feel stronger, I feel like i have a lot more outplay potential and the tools to carry if i get ahead. This is wrong. Shaco is a champ who I'm pretty experienced on, but not in his current iteration. And i'm nowhere near as experienced as i am on teemo. Yet all the same i feel stronger. When I'm behind, i can farm and get items, build basically just ap, similar items to what i built on teemo, but ludens instead of nashors. And then i become relevant again. On teemo if youre behind, that's it, youre kinda fucked unless you can make it to late get void and rabadons. And when i'm ahead on teemo, i don't feel nearly as strong. I don't feel like i can take control of the game as well.

Shaco and teemo are kind of similar. Assassins with a stealth and traps. Champions who are annoying and who pop out of nowhere and blow your squishies up. I feel like the difference is shaco's traps can stack damage, and melee champs can't disable those traps, even with a red ward or sweeper, shaco gets execute damage, has better mobility, hard cc, and, shaco has a higher base MS, one of the highest in the game. I know teemo's w makes him generally faster, but, if he takes one point of damage, that speed bonus becomes null. Teemo needs something to become relevant. There is so much %hp damage in the game, a lot of the times in people's kit. Why can't teemo have that? Or built in execute damage. Lots of champs get that too? Why can't he have more base MS, or make it so the passive on his w isn't lost if he takes champion damage? He is the "swift scout" after all. Why can't he get true damage in his kit? Or MR reduction? I have to do backflips as teemo to do what other champs can do easily.

34 Comments

Gath Immortal2/12/2020, 8:20:35 PM6 votes

no one wants champs whose entire identity is being an annoying asshole to get buffed so they can be more of an annoying asshole

ModWulf Helhammer2/12/2020, 8:43:06 PM3 votes

Teemo is not supposed to be an assassin.

AlienPrimate2/12/2020, 11:35:03 PM2 votes

I suggest trying my style of play on him. For runes I go dark harvest, cheap shot, eyeball collection, relentless hunter, celerity, water walking, cdr, ap, resist. I max Q before E. In lane I don't focus on bullying as much as a normal Teemo and only go for plays if the enemy misplays. Rush sorcerer's shoes, then liandry's, and now is where I drastically change play style. My next item is spellthief and I leave top to roam, get as many kills as possible in middle and bottom, and plant shrooms in places that actually matter like the sides of middle lane and through the river instead of just localized in top lane. From there, I usually go Luden's for more/stronger shrooms and then a full AP build depending on enemies (morellonomicon for squishies and healers, void staff for tanks, etc). After spellthief has wards I typically switch to blue trinket because most enemies have 3+ sweepers meaning they have less wards for a sweeper of my own.

Something to note is that I make sure my jungler knows what I'm doing before the game starts so they can chose to pick a split pushing jungler like Udyr or Trundle and take over top lane if they want.

Nalisai2/12/2020, 11:36:46 PM2 votes

The only buff I'd be good with for Teemo is to make his blind work like Quinn's.

Troll Slaiyer2/12/2020, 9:19:27 PM2 votes

switch some items out and try different keystones. i'v had success with lethal tempo and a bit more of a dps oriented build. helps fight against girthy and healing enemies a bit better.

ProphetOfDraven2/12/2020, 9:53:00 PM2 votes

I just got out of a game where I was adc and the enemy teemo one shot me with one shroom. Yeah buddy no buffs for you.

Joe 2nd2/15/2020, 11:40:03 PM1 votes

Maybe you have more experince with Teemo but doesn’t mean you are good on him. Some players just don’t know how to play some champs even if they main them, they try to force playstyle that doesn’t work with that champion. I am Azir main and I won’t find lot of success playing he like ap assassin, I can force that playstyle but it won’t get good outcome.

Maybe that is problem with your Teemo. You played him a lot, but maybe in unoptimal way.

Don’t get me wrong, some unoptimal playstyle can get you great outcome, but if you try play something that can’t be play you will be unhappy with result.

IVSakenz2/12/2020, 8:28:31 PM1 votes

Teemo is.. well.. teemo is annoying...I will ban him just so I do not have to play with him on my team... it has nothing to do with his power levels.. I have had teemo's go 20/2.. and basically be one to 2 shotting people.. and I still do not want him on my team..

his whole kit is based around being an annoying little shart

LordGeovanni2/12/2020, 11:23:37 PM1 votes

I wish they stop giving poison champions high dps and negating the whole point of poison.

Kroda132/12/2020, 11:50:11 PM1 votes

Teemo needs no buffs much like Yuumi just needs to be deleted from the game