tips vs an aggresive leona support ? -> as support

falldown010·7/16/2016, 3:43:10 AM·2 votes·5,644 views

well hey folks i have been playing a lot of support on my alt lately its fun most of the time, but there is always this annoying matchup where i get a leona, and she always lands that stun, then another stun same applies to my adc, they get caught so much, its not even fun for me

i really love playing off meta supports, but they tend to lose to her, depending on what adc i get, and they have, wel im going off topic again

anyways what are the general counter tips to countering leona support as a support?

13 Comments

Lady Hammerlock7/16/2016, 10:20:04 AM2 votes

1.Pick morgana,her black shield just screws leona over so hard because that means she can't lock down the enemy AD,not to mention her snare basically make 3 of her abilities impossible to use 2.Pick Janna,her shield generally helps block some damage but the main reason you'd pick janna is as a disengage with her Q to cancel Leona's E 3.Pick Alistar,for one he is another tank support so thats a + but Ali can just Q leona when she's on top of your AD or you can just W her away 4.pick thresh,Thresh has lots of peel in his kit being able to knock her away with E,Q to stop her and if your ally is hit by a full combo his lantern can save lives

Calabok7/16/2016, 5:14:22 AM1 votes

play better than them and be like James Bond

RisenDarkKnight7/16/2016, 5:25:29 AM1 votes

A few tips: first poke her/her adc hard lvl 1. Leona can't do anything until lvl 2, so if they have a health disadvantage when they hit lvl 2, her all in will be much worse.

If you see her cast her W (the shield) get ready to dodge because she will probably cast E soon. If the shield expires without her landing E, that is a good time to trade with her.

If you are near your tower and get hit with Leona E, you can flash under your tower to bring her with you and potentially kill her. This works best early game before she gets tanky.

Knockups/displacments can cancel leona E if you time them properly. For instance, if a Janna Q hits leona while she is dashing to her E target leona will stop her dash.

Ask for jungle ganks: Leona tends to go in hard a lot so if your jungler is their when she engages it's a free kill.

Play under tower: in the early game tower dives are hard, so if you just let them push you in leona is useless since she has no poke or sustain, only engage.

CC the enemy adc when Leona engages: If your adc gets hit by leona combo, the best thing to do is generally cc or zone off the enemy adc so they can't follow up on leona's engage. Leona shoudn't be able to do that much damage by herself after the first few levels.

Watch her mana bar: In the early game leona combo costs aroudn 165 mana. She usually has enough mana to go in twice, then will have to wait before a third engage. So if you see she has less than 165 mana, you can be more aggresive as she can't cast all her basic abilities without that much mana.

It's generally best to pick disenage or tanky champs agasinst leona like janna or alistar. Soraka and Sona tend to do very poorly against leona because they have no pre-6 hard cc and are squishy.

67chrome7/16/2016, 5:26:50 AM1 votes

i really love playing off meta supports, but they tend to lose to her

Well, yeah.

You're main goal as an off-meta support is to snowball an early advantage so you have the gold/XP to be relevant late-game. Meta supports work better with minimal gold and XP than anyone else. And off-meta supports are generally butts without gold/XP.

Off-meta supports are a Kill-lane in most cases, basically.

Issue with trying that vs. Leona is Leona is one of the best kill-lane champions in the game, and as a support secondary she still scales well into late-game with lacking gold/XP.

anyways what are the general counter tips to countering leona support as a support?

As a meta support you just play passively. Don't try to fight, don't put yourself in situations you'll get stunned. All Leona does is initiate fights and lock down priority targets. Don't let her do that. CS simulator 2016 isn't her dream lane.

If you need to fight her in lane to win: try to stack the odds in your favor. Bait Leona into a fight when you have a large minion advantage, try using her itchy trigger finger against her when your jungler is coming in for a gank, trade when Leona and her lane partner are far apart and you're lane buddy is close by, trade when you and/or your ADC just got new item and you've got an itemization advantage, etc. Also maintain vision control of the bushes. That will help your ADC out a ton. Just be smart about face-checking. Being 100% sure Leona is in that bush you're 90% sure she's in, that is not worth a death.

SwiftKitten887/16/2016, 5:31:23 AM1 votes

i have a REALLY hard time vs her as a Lux support but i find her pretty easy to beat as a Morgana

zlumpy7/16/2016, 5:40:54 AM1 votes

Stand as close to the enemy as you can! The further out of position you are the better....no seriously I'm not trying to sabotague yoh at all I swear.

Btw leona main here :P

If you can manage to position yourself behind your adc and opposite leona in a fight it tends to put her out of position. Thats only if you have to fight. If you want a counter to her play stay on your side of the river, play passive , and farm. Try and use tanky supports with good anti engage. Don't immediately start fighting her that passive does a ton of damage when her ally finally shows up to her engage. As far as late game goes tenacity does wonders vs her and again a good anti engage will ruin her day....so will her allies when they decide to not follow up on her hard engage.

Edit: be wary of using morg support vs her. The second you black shield yourself or ally she is going to swap targets fast if they are good. And black shield doesn't prevent her from dashing to you with E. I've beat a lot of morg/sivir combos because they get overconfident and mess up when I don't Q right away.

jazzerbone907/16/2016, 8:00:35 AM1 votes

if you have the opportunity in champ select to be picking into leona, pick morgana or lulu or some other champ that can counter her engage.

Anu3isII7/16/2016, 8:49:42 AM1 votes

Morgana Sivir

Spoofghoul7/16/2016, 10:11:07 AM1 votes

Alistar does well

you can just headbutt her adc away then stun her winning the trades every single time she goes allin then you just proceed to outsustain her on top of that

back when i mained leona support this was always my most hated matchup you can't do anything against it

Luna Ather Solis7/20/2016, 4:59:06 PM1 votes

dont worry leona will die off soon

Environmentalist7/16/2016, 4:52:22 AM1 votes

When I'm given the chance to choose my champ after Leona has chosen, I like to go Lulu or someone with a lot of disengage. With Lulu, as soon as Leona E's into your adc, all you need to do is polymorph (W) Leona and your adc can walk away freely. Other good counters include Nami (if you're quick with the bubble) and Morgana, because you can spell shield your ADC. Another option is Blitz. You wait a little bit behind your ADC and when Leona comes in for the E + Q, there shouldn't be any minions in the way and you can pull her under your turret if you guys are fighting close enough.

Aside from specific champion counters, the item "Mikael's Crucible" item 3222 is perfect against Leona. The active on it allows you to rid a target ally of any stuns, slows, etc as well as heals them for a bunch of health! Super good support item.

Enjoy support! :) It's a lot of fun!

x R U K A x7/21/2016, 4:34:12 AM1 votes

Morgana and Zyra