I get the complaints but...

kmathieu2220·11/15/2017, 2:38:45 PM·54 votes·1,611 views

Isn't this a kinda what we asked for? There are weird AF off meta builds, champs playing in different lanes and it kinda feels like anything is possible right now. I get the issues with the BE no "feeling good" but I have personally been able to buy more champs in the past week than I have bought in the past 1-2 months because of the frequency of shard drops. So I get that everything feels like chaos and conspiracies but just enjoy that the preseason is designed to bonkers, enjoy that people are doing weird builds on weird champs in weird lanes because at least it is different.

23 Comments

SuperLuigiLXIV11/15/2017, 2:52:52 PM25 votes

Yep.

Don't give us that Galio or Janna crap mid-season, that's ridiculous.

But this is pre-season. Go NUTS, Riot. Shake this place up while you've got a couple months.

I will be happy to go on a month-long losing streak between seasons if it means giving a single-finger salute to....well, 90% of season 7.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Karn Bishop11/15/2017, 8:44:47 PM10 votes

Weird because i thought everyone was asking that twitch be heavily nerfed, both before during and now after worlds and i don't see a dead rat corpse anywhere in the patch notes do you?

Velzard of Koz11/15/2017, 6:11:41 PM8 votes

What are you even talking about? How is BE system and virtual currency gains related to Runes? If old Runes were a way to force RP champ purchases that's not "source of revenue", that's dirty scam and I don't accept that as argument.

Other than that it's possible to have both not sucking BE gains system AND these new Runes. A lot of people who complain complain about either new Runes (saying games are too snowbally and one-sided) or BE system (saying the system doesn't feel as rewarding). You somehow managed to unlocigcally combine it saying "I understand the complaints about BE system, but gameplay in pre-season is fun". Like... The gameplay in pre-season changed due to runes, not BE system. It's possible to complain and encourage changes to BE system without disrupting you having fun with new Runes. Weird off-meta builds will exist even if the BE system will get fixed, there is simply no logical relation to it, so why pull it off?

Also...

but I have personally been able to buy more champs in the past week than I have bought in the past 1-2 months because of the frequency of shard drops.

Yes, congrats on being blessed by RNGesus. I personally got so far champs I owned that disenchanted into the minimal 810 BE gains. The system looks great If you are lucky to get shards of champ you want to unlock and get the maximum possible BE. But tell me why you get rewarded more for the same performance, because Riot can't implement single fucking feature without RNG?

Also the reason why I will keep calling the system bullshit is because they are pretending how improbable it is to be the worst case and always get the minimum value of BE, but when you get the minimum value several times in a row, you don't care how much 'henrietta' or 'philip' have probability in their stats, you care because you get fucked by the system for no reason because there isn't enough RNG in the game already.

GGLineaR11/16/2017, 2:54:57 AM6 votes

Buff the amount of armor turrets get per minute by 1, increase the cap from 70 to 95, and buff their base armor and mr by 10.

Increase their damage to champions by 15%

Bring back lasers for inhib and nexus turrets.

Give inhib turrets and nexus a total of +10 hp per second regen when a champion hasn't hit it in 15 seconds, up to 80% health.

Does it sound like a lot of buffs? Yeah, but we dont need ALL of these. Two or three would work just fine, but we need SOMETHING.

LightningShado11/15/2017, 7:52:40 PM4 votes

Agreed. Well said buddy.

Sraeg201311/15/2017, 6:18:35 PM4 votes

Ah, yes, so many offmeta builds I can't hold them all.

But still one maaaaybe two rune sets for a champion, because 80%+ runes are flat out garbo on most champions.

In other words no different than old runes and masteries.

SeanThomas211/15/2017, 11:50:18 PM3 votes

Well i, as a sup main kinda just wanted assassins and bot lane not to snowball as hard this season and then they did just that : )

Fedoran11/15/2017, 3:47:32 PM3 votes

If riot fixes up the towers and makes BE more availible, I’m pretty sure most of the complaints will end

Aatrox Mid 1v511/15/2017, 5:21:41 PM2 votes

I don't remember asking for Rengar to appear outta thin air and 1 shot me before my support can use locket or zed to tp behind me and go "omae wa mou, shindeiru" and e aa and that's enough dmg for his ult to kill me

FakeGravity11/15/2017, 11:08:54 PM2 votes

i have no problem with the weird meta, is awesome, issues come when what suppose to be weird is so strong that it crowds everything else cough ezreal cough

the BE dont feel good yet, need changes, and tank runes are so weak in my opinion

Not Too Serious11/15/2017, 5:55:37 PM1 votes

I'm just happy Fiddlesticks is somewhat playable again

It's been 3 seasons too long...

jo990111/15/2017, 3:48:12 PM1 votes

I agree. I haven't played all that much, just a few games and trying out zoe a bunch on the PBE, but i really like the new runes. I cant speak much for the BE, i would have to actually level up and play more, but so far i like this preseason. (probably just because manaflow band and stuff so i never run out of mana)

Troll for Trump11/16/2017, 6:50:00 AM1 votes

There are weird AF off meta builds

There are also other builds and champs axed off, and the meta has become more restricted. More variability in some ways, but less diversity in others.

champs playing in different lanes and it kinda feels like anything is possible right now

Nope, a lot of off-meta roles are hurt. Many off-meta junglers can't jungle successfully as a result of rune changes, and role "swaps" like assassin/mage top don't seem to be doing super well. The meta is pretty confined, idk where you're getting this "I can play anything" vibe from.

I get the issues with the BE no "feeling good" but I have personally been able to buy more champs in the past week than I have bought in the past 1-2 months because of the frequency of shard drops.

Probably will end up getting used to it. BE might be the plants of this season. Though to be honest, the plants, as predicted, didn't really add any extra in-depth elements to the game. The faults found in pre-season 6 are still present now.

If the main goal was to increase diversity, Riot has succeeded and failed in that regard.

SangreDeNoche11/16/2017, 8:11:54 AM1 votes

It's almost like the people that wanted a weird meta where lots of different things become viable may not necessarily be the same ones complaining that we have a weird meta where lots of different things have become viable.