jungle doesn't have any impact anymore

VickyoOsVz·Aug 16, 2019·6 votes·2,730 views

The camp respawn time is way too high. If all your lanes are pushing, then you just sit there, doing nothing. If you happen to have a bad matchup, the ennemy jungler invades you, and your team doesn't react, basically the game is over. He will have ample time to empty your jungle, gank, recall, buy, and do it over and over again. At this point, you can't counter-gank because he's overpowering you, and you can't afk farm to come back because of the low respawn. So you can only rely on luck that someone in your team will carry. It's only making raising (again!) the luck factor and lowering the skill factor.

28 Comments

Toxic TeetoAug 16, 20193 votes

Wrong. Jungler decides what happens in the game. Every single game.

Yeah. Your account is silver 4. Which means youre not even trying to play the game as a jungler.

Jungle difference indeed.

VickyoOsVzAug 16, 20192 votes

wrong! The only actor who decides anything in this game is riot. Every.Single.Game.

Tahminatrix Aug 16, 20192 votes

No role has 100% impact to help others unless youre playing a champion that has the damage to force your teammates to atleast possibly get an assist.

And jungle has insane impact considering you can just camp lanes and then clear your camps because catchup xp is bs.

VickyoOsVzAug 16, 20191 votes

camping lane is the most stupid thing, if your teammates don't know lane control, if they want something else, or if you're just unlucky, you're outfatrmed extermely fast and the timed respawn makes it impossible to come back unless you afk split

VentiraAug 16, 20192 votes

Here's a video to help improve your jungling skills then:

Also, you can always ask your laners to stop pushing so you can gank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVUCpWpndKU&t=2s

The Stripy BagAug 16, 20193 votes

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Here's a video to help improve your jungling skills then:

Also, you can always ask your laners to stop pushing so you can gank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVUCpWpndKU&t=2s

You know they recently also posted a video on why and how Riot broke the Jungle and how to fix it too. Though I do respect that you at least offered advice in the face of what you see as someone struggling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLBgmDblHs

VentiraAug 16, 20192 votes

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You know they recently also posted a video on why and how Riot broke the Jungle and how to fix it too. Though I do respect that you at least offered advice in the face of what you see as someone struggling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLBgmDblHs

Oh I know the jungle's borked right now, but that video had some good info for me even, despite me playing for 6 years, such as f1-f4 being hotkeys to jump camera to allies. Did not know this :P

VickyoOsVzAug 16, 20191 votes

here's a video to improve your reading skills : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVYfyTvc9KY

VentiraAug 16, 20193 votes

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here's a video to improve your reading skills : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVYfyTvc9KY

I like how I try to help you improve, and you just fire back with sass. No wonder EUW is such a trashfire.

VickyoOsVzAug 17, 20191 votes

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I like how I try to help you improve

But you don't though? Obviously if you expect thanks when you're just completely being out of place, you will have frustrating social interactions

VentiraAug 17, 20191 votes

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But you don't though? Obviously if you expect thanks when you're just completely being out of place, you will have frustrating social interactions

Except I did? I offered you a very solid video with good information. You're just a stubborn headed mule who thinks he's the hottest shit. Don't even give me that crap that I didn't try to help you improve by sharing that video. Heck, I tried to offer you advice in your other dumpster fire of a thread and you ignored the vast majority of my advice.

Even I learned some things from that video, and I've been playing the game FOR SIX YEARS.

I'm not expecting thanks, I'm expecting discussion, and all you bring to the table is sass.

VickyoOsVzAug 18, 20191 votes

wow chill dude, I just helped you understanding basic english, providing a very solid video with good information. Why so mad?

VentiraAug 19, 20191 votes

Because I already understand basic English, and anybody with two braincells to rub together can clearly see that. Whereas you are a mediocre jungler at best, who plays selfish champs (Yi, Kayn), blames everybody on his team and doesn't look at ways to improve his own performance.

Your sass is unappreciated, unwanted, and I hope you rot in the dumpster fire that is low silver.

Ninjas FlossingAug 19, 20191 votes

thank you i had no idea such comprehensive guides even existed

VentiraAug 19, 20191 votes

No problem, I found this by accident recently and it was so good I basically share it to everyone.

enshineAug 16, 20192 votes

just false lmfao

tied with mid for most impactful role in the game

there are other things you can do with your time when you can't gank. invade. your team has prio. ping spam "on my way" when you invade. establish deep vision. take dragons. lane gank. countergank. not hard to track a jungler.

GayFluffyUnicornAug 16, 20191 votes

Basically, he should track the jungler and countergank to keep his obviously winning lanes ahead.

Instead he will cry in all chat as he does on the boards "EVERYONE PUSHES AND EXPECTS ME TO GANK XD! BETTER JUNGLE WINS !XD!"

VickyoOsVzAug 16, 20191 votes

yeah counterganking a jax or udyr with a yi lol. Instead you'll just not play the game and imagine yourself a history on the boards lol

VickyoOsVzAug 16, 20191 votes

lmao that was true in the past, but clearly you haven't played since the jungle reword. once again people trying to give lessons when they're stuck with an imaginary idea.

bluefire mark 2Aug 16, 20192 votes

When i play top lane i don't just win or lose lane. If i lose lane, the oppoenent didn't win it. The jungler won it for them. If i win lane, i beat my opponent but I'm still getting camped by the jungler and not getting tooo ahead. So no. Jungle is too strong right now actually. Some junglers win games by thier plays while yours afk farms and then dies 1v1 to anyone that sees them.

VickyoOsVzAug 17, 20191 votes

The fact you have a low map awareness has nothing to do with the jungler's scaling. Obviously it's always a lot more difficult to play 1v2 than 1v1, that's the whole point of the jungler position. But if the jungler camps you, he gets behind in power, and that's made worse by the current camp respawn.

bluefire mark 2Aug 18, 20192 votes

You assume I have bad map awareness? Rude much? God this community so full of themselves. No I'm aware enough. Basically "if i win lane and or push AT ALL i lost lane because jungler exists." I've had games where i die to a gank under tower, come back, and they dive me again. Did they ever fall in power? No. In fact they outleveled other people in the game including myself. The thought of jungle sucking is entirely freaking false. I'm tired of junglers right now. The game is win or lose because of them.

VickyoOsVzAug 18, 20191 votes

Well that's pretty factual - if the ennemy jungler just doing his job makes you lose your lane, that's bad map awareness.

bluefire mark 2Aug 19, 20192 votes

Yes dying under tower to the jungler is bad map awarness yes. You are so smart wow, genius. You should win an award for how not smart you are... I'm done here you are very ignorant about this subject.

Pandemic PunchAug 17, 20191 votes

Most of the top 15 players from every region are junglers. There is a reason for it. The reason is the opposite of your claim.

Impact on the game and feeling bad to play are different from one another.

5050BSAug 19, 20191 votes

Jungle is THE Number One reason a team wins.

The team with the Autofiled Jungler loses

The thigh guyAug 19, 20191 votes

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Jungle is THE Number One reason a team wins.

The team with the Autofiled Jungler loses

Weird way to spell top lane.

CrystalyskAug 19, 20191 votes

If all your lanes are pushed you need to understand where the enemy jungle could gank and counter gank it or even better make a clean dive in a lane and get a massive lead. Having all lanes pushed isn't a bad thing and allows you too counter jungle even more.