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@Riot can we re-visit Garen for the upcoming pre-season?

King of Hearts11·10/16/2016, 11:03:39 PM·4 votes·1,168 views

I don't think Garen needs a re-vamp but can we atleast get some mini QoL buffs for the Demacian Warrior? Hes's been sitting at 48.1% winrate now which shows he's in a poor spot in comparison to many other bruisers. Personally I prefer Garen with a weaker laning phase and a stronger mid-late game but he can really only put out that damage with Critical Strike items. Long gone are days of Tank Garen in my opinion RIP, he's just not viable anymore with Assassins being able to 1v1 Tanks in Solo Lanes. Some of the QoL buffs I would suggest are:

Perserverance: Can this be changed to Garen regenerating 0.4%/1.0%/2.0% of his maximum HP in Combat and not while he hasn't been hit for X seconds? I really haven't ever understood the reason for his passive allowing regen outside Combat. Perhaps some sort of Critical Strike Modifer affecting his heal in combat could be added for everytime he strikes critically, the healing he gets in combat jumps up.

Decisive Strike: Cannot be slowed during the Duration of it. Its absolutely disgusting how much trouble Garen has getting to his target with so many blinks and slows in the game (note how every mage now builds rylais).

Demacian Justice: Change the Magic Damage to Physical Damage. Its absolutely stupid how hard Hexdrinker counters his Ultimate. The Villain Mechanic is too un-predictable to be able to use your ult on the correct target.

Villain Mechanic: Tbh this is too unreliable of a mechanic and It should be changed to something like Garen gains stacks of Villain everytime he hits a champion. Each tick of Judgement or Auto Attack generates 1 stack. Garen deals true damage to his target for 1% of their HP and true damage to his target while a target has 6 stacks of Villain passive. This passive is shut off while demacian justice is on cooldown.

Any thoughts from any Rioters who said they would be looking at Garen after the Bruiser re-works?

11 Comments

Flaherty10/16/2016, 11:07:40 PM3 votes

I think he would be great if they made his e give him some tenacity again

Commit Sudoku10/16/2016, 11:05:23 PM1 votes

48% win rate is pretty good for such a simple champion tbh 48% isnt a problem winrate

that being said i would be opposed to small changes

Lugg10/16/2016, 11:13:44 PM1 votes

Garen is 100% fine. They just need to gut the stupidly broken tops. This alone would make him a good pick.

Zetto10/17/2016, 12:44:05 AM1 votes

Perserverance: Can this be changed to Garen regenerating 0.4%/1.0%/2.0% of his maximum HP in Combat? I really haven't ever understood the reason for his passive allowing regen outside Combat. Perhaps some sort of Critical Strike Modifer affecting his heal in combat could be added for everytime he strikes critically, the healing he gets in combat jumps up.

So you want to take his regen, and double it, while giving him access to his passive whenever he's in combat?

Why?

NovaDisk10/17/2016, 6:09:26 AM1 votes

Garen needs to be changed in a way so he's weaker in Low ELO, but stronger in High ELO.

Maybe make his W more impactful? In Low ELO, Garen players can basically ignore W unless they are buttonmashing.