With what seems to be the rise of ADCs, do you think we will see an assassin and a mage rework coming this season? I don't think the nerfs to their items were really appropriate, but there's plenty of time for new updates.
Rito Staff3 votesMages seem to be in a good spot. In regards to them I think they should only mess with the ones who need updates, tweaks and buffs.
Assassins do need an update the way I see it. Juggernauts got sort of introduced as a new class, and had items made for them specifically. Marksman have new items too.
Now, we saw very few assassins at Worlds if any at all. I woud love to see some itemization specially tailored for them!
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Mages seem to be in a good spot. In regards to them I think they should only mess with the ones who need updates, tweaks and buffs.
I agree with the part about assassins, but come on now.
Zair Umbras1 votesIs Death's Deal, the new Youmuu's, and the 55 AD Cleaver not enough for AD Assassins?
Is the new Mejai's starting item that's the equivalent to a damn Doran's Ring not enough for those AP Assassins who win lane and snowball hard?
Trust me. Assassins are in a good spot right now.
ProfDrDeath1 votesA major rework? Probably not.
Slight touch-ups IF they're too weak? Likely.
Generally speaking, Riot seems to be moving assassins away from being able to kill everyone indiscriminately, and make them more focused towards actually hunting down and killing squishies.
AD assassins will probably be in a decent spot once the dust settles. They're losing the current core build, with the early power spike of Brutalizer and the all-purpose power of Last Whisper, but get better AD items in return, like the redone Ghostblade, the access to cheap, offensive CdR in Caulfield's Warhammer without the draught of useful upgrades Brutalizer had afterwards, get a sustain option that covers their abilities and auto-attacks, get a more powerful anti-AP option in Maw, a more offensively tooled Black Cleaver, Executioner's Calling as an option against that pesky Lifesteal of ADCs... AP assassins will be hurt a bit more, with the general increase in MR. However, AP assassins now get the option to snowball the game right out of the gates with the new Dark Seal - you'll never want to die against that LeBlanc, like, ever.
DogIsGod1 votesYou've got some great points and I totally agree with you. I don't think the changes will go through as they are right now and Riot will fine-tune the champions and the items, but I would still love to see a major rework being done for assassins and mages which will probably happen in the near future. Champions like Talon, Anivia, Heimer etc, these are just a few examples of outdated champions. They are not in any shape or form weak currently, but they could use a little bit of help, either in the visuals category or maybe a gameplay update.
ProfDrDeath1 votesNow, that is certainly true. Chosen assassins and mages could use a little bit of help.
Zair Umbras1 votesAssassins? Oh, I hope you're joking... I truly hope you're joking. I'm like, sitting here praying that you're joking...
AD Assassins have Youmuu's and Death's Deal, plus Cleaver is now a better item for them whereas AP Assassins are being allowed to start with a Doran's Ring that turn into a Mejai's, plus it starts the stacks on top of those stacks being transferred to the MSS when you upgrade it. MSS is also only losing 8 stacks on death while you get 8 per kill. Trust me, AP Assassins can comfortably buy even just the first ring and get snowball stats to sell after they've died once or twice.
Assassins are so well off it's not even funny... The RoA+Archangel mages also got buffed since RoA has 20 AP more base while the ruby and sapphire crystals are more slot efficient.
Meep Man1 votesTo put it shortly, yes.