why does fiora have a mana bar?

undesirable team·May 31, 2017·2 votes·464 views

^^title seems kinda pointless

18 Comments

DoodlzzzMay 31, 20174 votes

so she doesnt spam endless q's in laning phase

undesirable teamMay 31, 20173 votes

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so she doesnt spam endless q's in laning phase

JbelsMay 31, 20174 votes

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so she doesnt spam endless q's in laning phase

LOL

DoodlzzzMay 31, 20171 votes

i don't get whats so funny im being semi-serious but okay

JbelsMay 31, 20175 votes

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i don't get whats so funny im being semi-serious but okay

The joke is that she endlessly spams her Q with or without the mana bar! Tadaaaaah!

Asayake 5150glowMay 31, 20172 votes

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The joke is that she endlessly spams her Q with or without the mana bar! Tadaaaaah!

She doesn't tho

General Esdeath May 31, 20172 votes

The cost is 20 mana at rank 1 and increases by 5 per rank, she has a mana pool of 300 that increases by about 40 per level, at level 1 (not counting mana regen) she can use 15 Q's before running out of mana. Considering it can be used to proc her true damage vital that heals her, it's a little ridiculous that she can use this many at level 1. I play a lot of Riven so mana bars feel weird to me, but honestly, when I play Fiora I don't really feel it at all. It feels really similar to Riven for me. Only time I feel it is when I try to use AA Q AA E AA AA and then W and notice I'm out of mana at about level 6.

Asayake 5150glowMay 31, 20171 votes

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The cost is 20 mana at rank 1 and increases by 5 per rank, she has a mana pool of 300 that increases by about 40 per level, at level 1 (not counting mana regen) she can use 15 Q's before running out of mana. Considering it can be used to proc her true damage vital that heals her, it's a little ridiculous that she can use this many at level 1. I play a lot of Riven so mana bars feel weird to me, but honestly, when I play Fiora I don't really feel it at all. It feels really similar to Riven for me. Only time I feel it is when I try to use AA Q AA E AA AA and then W and notice I'm out of mana at about level 6.

Well you'll notice that Q isn't exactly an extremely strong spell, in terms of damage or mobility and definitely not in utility.

General Esdeath Jun 1, 20171 votes

It's strong in that it targets low HP minions (making farming easy), vitals (for easy trades), and can be used as plain mobility to escape a gank.

Asayake 5150glowJun 1, 20171 votes

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It's strong in that it targets low HP minions (making farming easy), vitals (for easy trades), and can be used as plain mobility to escape a gank.

Farming easily isn't exactly something that's very amazing, and with Fiora's short range, she would be bullied out far too easily if she ever falls behind. Not to mention that if you're up against a Jayce or something, you will be spamming Q to last hit, and your mana bar will cry because of it. Vitals aren't actually that powerful early game. For example, a Trynd once walked up to me, I hit 4 or 5 vitals, and I still lost the 1v1 (at lvl 1). If Fiora doesn't hit Vitals early game, she's probably going to lose the duel. If you force a fight, you can't fucking blame her for Q'ing behind you and hitting a Vital. If she Q's to poke a Vital, then you should've reset it. It's also a fairly weak spell in terms of mobility. 350 range is nothing compared to other dashes.

General Esdeath Jun 1, 20171 votes

Farming easy is amazing when you can avoid harass, people blocking minions, creep block, and you scale as well as she does. And there's a lot of champs with less range than her, Jayce in hammer stance included. You're trying to 1v1 a trynd level 1, a guy who gets stronger with more fury and missing HP, that's a given for almost anyone in the game. And you can't reset it mid fight when in spawns RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER. And 350 is enough to go through creeps, over some walls, and around champs.

Asayake 5150glowJun 1, 20171 votes

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Farming easy is amazing when you can avoid harass, people blocking minions, creep block, and you scale as well as she does. And there's a lot of champs with less range than her, Jayce in hammer stance included. You're trying to 1v1 a trynd level 1, a guy who gets stronger with more fury and missing HP, that's a given for almost anyone in the game. And you can't reset it mid fight when in spawns RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER. And 350 is enough to go through creeps, over some walls, and around champs.

Like I said, using Q to farm constantly will destroy your mana bar.

In order for the Vital to spawn, period, she needs to pop it first. And it always spawns in a different place... meaning it's literally impossible for the Vital to spawn right in front of her unless it was about to time out anyway, in which case you should've chosen a better fight.

Besides, I was only talking about her using it to poke a Vital. She deserves to hit the Vital if you force a fight, because how the fuck else is she supposed to hit them?

Exactly, he was even inside of my minions, so Vital's aren't that strong early game.

350 is enough to go through creeps, some walls and around champions, but it's a shit tier escape when it comes to getting ganked. Simply proccing Red buff's slow would let you stick to her despite the dash.

JbelsMay 31, 20172 votes

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She doesn't tho

LOL

JbelsMay 31, 20171 votes

Ha! I see what you did there

UnboundHadesMay 31, 20171 votes

I feel like she would work well with energy while giving it back on hitting a vital but having a slower than normal energy regen so she cant just spam q away if she hits anything

TakazakiMay 31, 20171 votes

because having her with no mana would allow her to split push indefinitely without any draw back to spamming abilities.

General Esdeath May 31, 20171 votes

She already does late game though.

Asayake 5150glowMay 31, 20171 votes

It massively limits her waveclear/pushing power before Tiamat, I'd bet she'd skip Rav if she could clear waves without it. In other words, earlier BT, which is far more annoying to play against.