I shouldn't have to worry about my Thresh support, who lives in a "mountain" with 300 ping, disconnects from the game 20+ times and made us lose the game single handedly because I got 4 manned bot the whole time due to him legit not being in the game.
BALDG1VEN BOOMER36 votesDepends.
Living far from servers or knowing your internet is bad in general then yes.
But if someones ping has been fine all day then magically decides to shit the bed then there's no way to know, and you can't really blame him for living in a "mountain".
Bøx6 votes[{quoted}](name=TSM Piccaboo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rp10vO7l,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-24T16:05:11.001+0000)
Depends.
Living far from servers or knowing your internet is bad in general then yes.
But if someones ping has been fine all day then magically decides to shit the bed then there's no way to know, and you can't really blame him for living in a "mountain".
Thank you. I randomly have problems ONCE IN A BLUE MOON but for some reason I get yelled at saying "Don't play ranked if you have issues."
I'm not going to let one small possibility of crappy internet stop me from playing games if I only get them once in a while.
La Belle Sauvage1 votesAgree, my ping is pretty damn good. I've experienced this odd spikes into 800. I have to alt tab out and guess which one of the instances of lol to shut down. That fixed it. However, is started happening more than I cared so I completely uninstalled and haven't had an issue since.
Breaku6 votesIf only there was a way to predict when Spectrum was going to just decide to be shit for 20 minutes or so
RusselChambers3 votesThis right here. Spectrum is fickle and is only there to fuck you at inconvenient times
3TWarrior2 votesbetter than AT&Terrible
funny thing is, when one internet company slows its internet because it's "peak hours", every other internet company has the same problem
La Belle Sauvage1 votesI have At&t, and get 16 ping stable. So they aren't Terrible.
3TWarrior1 voteswell, you probably don't live in the east...where here, they quite literally just muscle the other companies around and monopolize
I think verizon and a few others are here but they're not as big as AT&T is
HippoPlays2 votesSpectrum ruined my summer. Lag spiked from 70 to 10000 at least 3 times per game
Skins Project6 votesWhat if i have a stable 2k ping :3
3TWarrior2 voteswhat if I have a stable 100 ping and an unstable 80k ping? XD
league actually measured that once XD
Skins Project2 votesI hit 13 digits on pbe once..
######let me feel specialllll :(
3TWarrior2 votesall hail the legend(which would be you)
I think once and only once did something actually measure my ping as "infinite" XD or basically no data was transmitted ^^; but i've never hit above 5 figures
Skins Project1 votes:3
OyddAWqJ5r5 votesSpeaks for something of the fact that he is in your elo with 300 ping tho. Must be a good player.
Makior724 votesI really wish riot would implement a ping check before you are allowed to play ranked games. If you have a ping greater than 300 on the server you play on, or have packet loss greater than 1% you should not be allowed to start a ranked game period.
3TWarrior2 votesthis can be true but sometimes it is on riot's servers or another node in the long-line of connected internet lines
Fütanari3 votesor don't play period.
zaire903 votesFrom what I learned 150 is playable after you hit 200 is where you start to run into problems 5k ping is unplayable I've experienced that and higher
Asudurga1 votes150 ping here, can confirm. Tbh 150 isn't any different as I can use my skills as soon as I press the button, no delay.
Dragfin2 votesI shouldn't have to worry about my Thresh support, who lives in a "mountain" with 300 ping, disconnects from the game 20+ times and made us lose the game single handedly because I got 4 manned bot the whole time due to him legit not being in the game.
Irresponsible people will only worry about themselves. RIOT will always concern themselves with those people as reflected by the slap on the wrist that LPQ provides. Reasons such as, "they have the right to play" will always be used to excuse the problems these type of people cause for others who are responsible. It's the way of the world and there isn't anything me and you and those who feel this way can do about it.
No matter how many games are ruined because of these selfish players, it will never be fixed properly because of all the empty excuses these type of players will bring about and the belief that RIOT has in those excuses.
Bottom line should be if your connection sucks then stay out and stop ruining the experience for others. It's really that simple.
yesnobanana3 votesProblem is that its hard to say what is a "shit connection". some people play on 150, some consider it unplayable.
Dragfin2 votesProblem is that its hard to say what is a "shit connection". some people play on 150, some consider it unplayable.
If it ruins the experience for others then it's a shit connection. It's not about the person who owns it. If a players system is below the recommendations then they are to blame and I know alot of people do it, for whatever reason. The problem is not hard. People are simply apathetic.
Hemulen Magi6 votesIf you have the same mmr as someone who plays with 150 ms ping so that you get matched with them, then it's a fair game. That player is clearly better in some other ways, such as strategizing, than most players within their mmr bracket. So by the same token as your argument, players who play badly should be blamed because it 'ruins the experience for others', so I can easily tell that you are a toxic player. I can also tell that you are a hypocrite because you wouldn't be paired with players that have frequent bad ping unless if you are 'ruining the experience for others' by being a below-average skill level player within your mmr bracket yourself or you also have intermittent connection issues but suffer from perception bias...
La Belle Sauvage1 votesAgree
3TWarrior3 votesdo you have $5000 or more for one line to an individual house that's less than a mile from others with internet?
do you have $20k to pay some idiot to "maintain" a new "node" for acceptable internet?
do you have $10 million for an entire community to have acceptable internet?
ooh ooh, here's a fun one...how about the undetermined amount it would take to replace existing lines towards a customer?
La Belle Sauvage1 votesOkay that is your only argument?
Dragfin2 votesdo you have $5000 or more for one line to an individual house that's less than a mile from others with internet?
do you have $20k to pay some idiot to "maintain" a new "node" for acceptable internet?
do you have $10 million for an entire community to have acceptable internet?
ooh ooh, here's a fun one...how about the undetermined amount it would take to replace existing lines towards a customer?
Why does any of what you say have to do with a responsible gamer? As I said, the excuses will flow because people like you don't care about anyone but themselves. I am sorry you live in an area that doesn't have good internet but does that mean you should ruin the game for others?
La Belle Sauvage1 votesAgree you again Dragfin.
ChaosThief1 votesSo for not having the ability to have "acceptable internet" you're essentially saying it's ok to bar off players because of that?
Internet is not a static thing, it can fluctuate from good connectivity to bad in a moment's notice. The service provider could suddenly have issues and you would be disconnected, and with people like you around they shouldn't be allowed to play one game of ranked because of something that's out of their control. Every player, regardless of connection, should have access to every feature of the game. If they play with "bad internet" constantly, then they know what they're getting into, and if it's consistent, then they'll get reported frequently and taken down by Leaverbuster.
You need to see both sides of the coin. Closing your mind off to one side of the argument is not a way to win an argument, that is how you make the argument a waste of time. Which, if it is my opinion, is what you're doing.
Dragfin1 votesSo for not having the ability to have "acceptable internet" you're essentially saying it's ok to bar off players because of that?
Internet is not a static thing, it can fluctuate from good connectivity to bad in a moment's notice. The service provider could suddenly have issues and you would be disconnected, and with people like you around they shouldn't be allowed to play one game of ranked because of something that's out of their control. Every player, regardless of connection, should have access to every feature of the game. If they play with "bad internet" constantly, then they know what they're getting into, and if it's consistent, then they'll get reported frequently and taken down by Leaverbuster.
You need to see both sides of the coin. Closing your mind off to one side of the argument is not a way to win an argument, that is how you make the argument a waste of time. Which, if it is my opinion, is what you're doing.
It is your fault for knowingly playing on a bad connection. Really don't care where you live or how bad your ISP is. Truth sucks but the truth is what it is. I am sorry you live there but why should others have to deal with that? Why is it ok just because you don't live in a good area. Regardless, if you knowingly play on a bad connection and can't be responsible then yes you should be punished accordingly. I do see both sides, you are the one who don't look at how your problem affects others.
3TWarrior1 votesI hate to burst your bubble...but you can't be a responsible "gamer" if you don't get to game...
You obviously live in a large city or near one...any rural player never makes such comments
I literally just told you the reason how it is impossible, even though the game is playable, that it is not only possible, it is the norm to be held hostage by the provider because there is no way to afford a ridiculous upgrade to communities of only a few thousand or less
Dragfin1 votesI hate to burst your bubble...but you can't be a responsible "gamer" if you don't get to game...
You obviously live in a large city or near one...any rural player never makes such comments
I literally just told you the reason how it is impossible, even though the game is playable, that it is not only possible, it is the norm to be held hostage by the provider because there is no way to afford a ridiculous upgrade to communities of only a few thousand or less
I am afraid you need to learn what being responsible is. Your comment clearly tells me that you will make every excuse in the book.
Bottom line is if you can't play with a good connection then you shouldn't be playing and ruining the game for others. IDGAF where you live. Be responsible not selfish.
La Belle Sauvage1 votesLa Belle Sauvage2 votesOmg love the OP.
In fact I think there should be ping restriction on ranked game. If you're over a certain ping number, you are not allowed to play ranked.
Nothing gets under my skin faster then this:
Zed: Ping 330 Zed: Ping 450 Zed: Ping 700...
I understand everyone cannot afford fast internet, but despite that I still think Riot should implement something.
Oh! If you play ranked on wireless and your ping sucks as a result? It should be followed by a life sentence playing Adventure Island on the NES.
yesnobanana2 votesI play regularly on 150 ping, for someone that has 20 ms its tilting, for me its normal. Who exactly is going to detrmine whats "shit ping"?
La Belle Sauvage1 votesNot sure how it could be implemented or what acceptable ping should be set to, but they should do something for sure.
3TWarrior4 votessure thing, do you have $5000 or more for one line to an individual house that's less than a mile from others with internet?
do you have $20k to pay some idiot to "maintain" a new "node" for acceptable internet?
do you have $10 million for an entire community to have acceptable internet?
ooh ooh, here's a fun one...how about the undetermined amount it would take to replace existing lines towards a customer?
La Belle Sauvage1 votesHa! The classic NES is Much cheaper.
Yes, it's expensive and I acknowledged that.
So for all the time people put into ranked, it should be ruined because a players constant ping issue? I think that's wrong. There should be a minimum ping requirement. However, you can chill knowing that they most likely won't.
Hemulen Magi2 votesEver since Riot added the Chicago server, I normally have a great ping. But even still, I have no guarantee that I won't have connection issues in a game. My ping will sometimes skyrocket to 1600+ ms and stay above 800 ms with no warning because I have house-mates who have an equal right to use the internet to watch Netflix or to download a game, etc. The vast majority of players will have occasional connection issues outside their ability to predict. The players who have constant connection issues tend to end up in a fair MMR that reflects their poor internet connectivity. I was in bronze back when I had terrible internet, and there is at least one DC'ed/AFK in most matches in low bronze, so while I had constantly bad ping and semi-frequent disconnects, I wasn't disadvantaging my team because I had well above average game knowledge and strategy usage for bronze MMR so everyone had generally fair games.
Since you act as if you never have internet issues, your current MMR placement must be explainable by a below average skill level for your bracket, below average game knowledge, or poor behavior (ex., frequent flaming causing your teammates to tilt)... Get over yourself.
BoilTheOil2 votesFun fact: internet can randomly start shitting itself
3TWarrior2 voteswell, the internet is supposed to be even...the sad truth is, even though internet companies are some of the richest in the world, it's all about profit and not about customer service or even legal issues anymore
dialup was originally everywhere because the government made a deal for phone lines to be everywhere
well...the internet companies started getting selective with where they improve their products and at the same time began extorting communities with prices for "modern" internet but non-modern equipment
take our area for example...you can't even buy dialup here anymore...and if we did, it would be 2 KB of service
we're going to move to a WISP(wireless internet service provider) soon mostly because it's cheaper than satellite, but the ping for that can get pretty random, even though the norm is around 100 ms for league or 60 for websites and things worsen when they restrict data usage
it's not the consumer's fault in most cases
La Belle Sauvage1 votesAlso, I referred to ping over 200, I understand 100 ping is playable. 100 ping is not what the OP means, nor what I referred to.
OMGSoAnnoying1 votesSimilarly, disable auto-updating features that will cause League to crash horribly.
I had two ranked games in a row of this last night. First game was our support, second our mid laner.
Swaid1 votesWith how long matches can take, I'd rather they just uninstall.
Karakot1 votesI don't mind it, internet hiccups occasionally and theres nothing I can do about it. Although it sucks its more bad luck than anything. I always check my internet connection before I go into a game though.
