ap miss fortune's bullet rain

falldown010·Nov 13, 2015·2 votes·721 views

i dunno, at this point it deals so much damadge, compare her to any mid laner even mages, she will easly force them out of the lane mr isnt helping that much against her, unless i burst her down, but she just throws her w on me and runs away while i die, and even if i get out, she just ults and well flash isnt unlimited then again

anyone got a viable stategy against ap ms midlaners, pref for quinn , i can deal with her , until she reaches lv 6 and gets ap, then her damadges is pretty absurd, 2 w's can take down more then half of my health

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Blazing TenshiNov 13, 20152 votes

AP MF has 0 burst, E is over 2s, R is over 3s.

falldown010Nov 14, 20151 votes

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AP MF has 0 burst, E is over 2s, R is over 3s.

her ult deals deals 20% AP + 75% AD physical damage The total damage is 240%/280%/320% AP plus 900%/1050%/1200% AD. how is this no burst, this is on her ult make it rain has a 80% AP and a strong slow meaning if you arent fast enough, and mf has a lot of ap, it will deal like more then 200 , + the cooldown isnt even big , meaning she can spam

her double up has a 35% for the first shot, her second shot has a 50% if she kills the first target while she has a lich bane she gets 85% ap ratio + her ad ratio , 70% if she kills the first target with no lich bane,

all jokes aside this is some serious poke, so how can she not burst you down ? with this much poke

MathbalnaseNov 14, 20151 votes

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her ult deals deals 20% AP + 75% AD physical damage The total damage is 240%/280%/320% AP plus 900%/1050%/1200% AD.

Don't stand in her ult for the full 3 seconds? CC her maybe? Or just learn to walk out of the damned thing?

Stiv1234Nov 13, 20152 votes

Alone the fact that you didnt even look at the champion once makes this post unneccessary (if you dont know what I mean: you should be complaining about her E, not her W).

falldown010Nov 14, 20151 votes

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Alone the fact that you didnt even look at the champion once makes this post unneccessary (if you dont know what I mean: you should be complaining about her E, not her W).

i did lookup her up afterwords, its not like i can go look herup durning a matchup, since if she gets too much farm and her ap items her ap scaling on make it rains turns out intense, if you never bothered fighting a mf ap , dont even bother responding

it has a 80% ratio meaning if she has 300 ap it will deal atleast something more then 250 damadge, + keep in mind the champ still needs to run out of the zone, meaning he will take atleast 2 times damadge, and lets not forget the heavy slow that comes with it, that allows mf to use her double up for an easy finish if she kills a minnion wih the first shot then the second shot will deal 75% ap ratio

my bad if i was talking about her wrong ability , but make it rain, is still very strong

MathbalnaseNov 13, 20151 votes

Less than an Anivia Q (double-hit) Less than a Brand W (after accounting for Innate) Less than a Cho Q (with reasonable AP) Only slightly more than an Elise human W

should I continue on down the list?

falldown010Nov 14, 20151 votes

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Less than an Anivia Q (double-hit) Less than a Brand W (after accounting for Innate) Less than a Cho Q (with reasonable AP) Only slightly more than an Elise human W

should I continue on down the list?

you cant compare those they are all different, cho is easy to shut down in y opinion brand needs to hit his q aniviva needs her q and e for the stun as for elise, well she can just cocoon you

but mf can use make it rain and let you take damdge, and use it afterwords once you are farming near the tower its a heavy harass , even worser if she has ap

MathbalnaseNov 14, 20151 votes

And MF's E is dealt over the course of two seconds, rather than dealt (or at least applied in the case of Brand) in a fraction of a second.

But I see now that I should have continued on down that list. More champions with similar or greater damage in a single ability than MF gets from her E: Gragas Q (after some delay; full delay put's MF's E to shame, and oh, would you look at that, the full delay is 2 seconds, the same as the duration of MF's E) Malz Q is only 10 damage short, deals that damage in a single instance, and applies a substantial silence Maokai's E (impact and detonation combined) deals an extra about 25% damage Have you seen Mord's W? And if we're all gung-ho about giving abilities their full durations, let me introduce you to a little champion we like to call 'Morg' We've also got full-duration Rumble Q Soraka E (initial and root damage) OMG Veigar W Goddamn Viktor E (enhanced) Xerath W (bulls-eye) Yorick W (1/3rd less base, but 25% more scaling) Ziggs E (5 or more detonations) Zilean Q

And let's be clear: These are ONLY champions labeled as 'mage' Using ONLY one ability (others would have made the list if bonus damage that requires other abilities or AAs had been factored in) counting only abilities that are AoE (single-target abilities tend to deal more damage than AoE abilities) counting only abilities that scale primarily on AP (for ease of comparison)

Yes, MF's E is capable of dealing significant damage if she builds AP. No, that damage is not extraordinary or unreasonable. It is applied over 2 seconds, has a cast time and a delay before it is applied, and leaving the AoE stops the damage. It has plenty of counterplay. 'Mage Fortune' does not have unreasonable damage (be that DPS, Burst, or a combination of the two) either compared to other 'mages' or to MF's more standard AD build.

falldown010Nov 15, 20151 votes

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And MF's E is dealt over the course of two seconds, rather than dealt (or at least applied in the case of Brand) in a fraction of a second.

But I see now that I should have continued on down that list. More champions with similar or greater damage in a single ability than MF gets from her E: Gragas Q (after some delay; full delay put's MF's E to shame, and oh, would you look at that, the full delay is 2 seconds, the same as the duration of MF's E) Malz Q is only 10 damage short, deals that damage in a single instance, and applies a substantial silence Maokai's E (impact and detonation combined) deals an extra about 25% damage Have you seen Mord's W? And if we're all gung-ho about giving abilities their full durations, let me introduce you to a little champion we like to call 'Morg' We've also got full-duration Rumble Q Soraka E (initial and root damage) OMG Veigar W Goddamn Viktor E (enhanced) Xerath W (bulls-eye) Yorick W (1/3rd less base, but 25% more scaling) Ziggs E (5 or more detonations) Zilean Q

And let's be clear: These are ONLY champions labeled as 'mage' Using ONLY one ability (others would have made the list if bonus damage that requires other abilities or AAs had been factored in) counting only abilities that are AoE (single-target abilities tend to deal more damage than AoE abilities) counting only abilities that scale primarily on AP (for ease of comparison)

Yes, MF's E is capable of dealing significant damage if she builds AP. No, that damage is not extraordinary or unreasonable. It is applied over 2 seconds, has a cast time and a delay before it is applied, and leaving the AoE stops the damage. It has plenty of counterplay. 'Mage Fortune' does not have unreasonable damage (be that DPS, Burst, or a combination of the two) either compared to other 'mages' or to MF's more standard AD build.

altough you got to admit, her late if ap is pretty beast if the enemy team doenst build mr

MathbalnaseNov 15, 20151 votes

If the enemy builds no MR, saves no CC, and doesn't know how to walk out of an AoE, then they deserve what they get.

falldown010Nov 15, 20151 votes

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If the enemy builds no MR, saves no CC, and doesn't know how to walk out of an AoE, then they deserve what they get.

wel im talking about normal que, where you dont get to see the enemy and with the pre season cc champs barely get picked, only ad or marksman's

MathbalnaseNov 15, 20151 votes

Some AD champs have useful CC AD champs can still build MR AD champs can still WALK OUT of the F-ing AoE

SukishooNov 13, 20151 votes

She's lost most all of her AP Scaling, her Ult no longer stacks magic damage from her W cause the W is a completely different spell.

falldown010Nov 14, 20151 votes

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She's lost most all of her AP Scaling, her Ult no longer stacks magic damage from her W cause the W is a completely different spell.

yeah, but the synchergy between those 2 is huge, if you can land make it rain + an ulti, and if she has ap, it destroys the enemy i always get out with less then 10% health this is then again season 6 scaling, not season 5