quinn is busted

rtbf247626423·Aug 8, 2018·16 votes·7,216 views

shes an assassin that does stupid damage with a blind that gives you a crit, a dash knockback half second stun, that GIVES A CRIT, a fucking clairvoyance as her w, and a broken ult that does aoe damage while giving her the ability to pressure the entire map.

yes ik her passive isnt a true crit but it more or less is a 150-180% crit, now partner that with an actual crit AND duskblade as she does broken damage.

quinn needs a rework or at the very lest the removal of one or two abilities including her passive as she's wayyy too strong right now.

22 Comments

MuxxikAug 8, 201810 votes

Jinx should be nerfed too -

One of the largest speedboosts in the entire game as her passive
Multiple types of autoattacks to choose from, with the ability to decide her aa range and free aoe damage
A super long range line aoe that also does a bunch of damage on a decent cooldown
A CC which can be used both offensively and defensively
A Global execute ult with fast projectile speed and enormous hitbox.

Just because I can list someone's kit does not mean they are broken.

Edit: Here's an idea. Record a ranked game of you playing quinn, using only two abilities (since you say two of them need to be removed). If you can win a single game using only two abilities, I'll admit I was wrong.

SugeMinPikkAug 8, 20183 votes

Don't forget the random caps lol

Summonah12369Aug 8, 20185 votes

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Jinx should be nerfed too -

One of the largest speedboosts in the entire game as her passive

Multiple types of autoattacks to choose from, with the ability to decide her aa range and free aoe damage

A super long range line aoe that also does a bunch of damage on a decent cooldown

A CC which can be used both offensively and defensively

A Global execute ult with fast projectile speed and enormous hitbox.

Just because I can list someone's kit does not mean they are broken.

Edit: Here's an idea. Record a ranked game of you playing quinn, using only two abilities (since you say two of them need to be removed). If you can win a single game using only two abilities, I'll admit I was wrong.

DON't SAY THAT ABOUT MY PRECIOUS MAIN :((( Jinx item 3070

Warlord RhinarkAug 14, 20181 votes

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DON't SAY THAT ABOUT MY PRECIOUS MAIN :(((

I thought you were a Nidalee main?

Summonah12369Aug 14, 20181 votes

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I thought you were a Nidalee main?

I main many champions.

IllusionLord333Aug 8, 201810 votes

Quinn is absolutely both horrible and hilarious to play against, especially when you are me (more than half of my most played champions are immobile mages).

Basically you could be in mid lane, doing your own thing. Then, suddenly a bird shaped missile comes flying at you faster than you can run. A few seconds and a blind later you are hopelessly dead...

However, she is no problem when I play Veigar. I just pop my cage and beeline in the other direction as fast as my tiny yordle legs can carry me, or if she gets caught I get to hear the satisfying sound of: “An enemy has been slain.”

In sort, she is decently busted in my opinion...

SalamencęAug 8, 20183 votes

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In sort, she is decently busted in my opinion...

hehe in SHORT Veigar

rtbf247626423Aug 16, 20181 votes

hehe

KlydeFrogAug 8, 20182 votes

and i smashed quinnn top using leona your right op ....

F3EDfromDesIr3Aug 8, 20183 votes

Yes in silver

KlydeFrogAug 9, 20181 votes

Have you tried it

Elkington VIAug 8, 20181 votes

It's not even that bad compared to other assassin kits, or even marksman kits. Quinn, like other assassins, benefits from metas where defensive scaling/itemization is weak.

TegashAug 8, 20181 votes

Jsyk, Harrier's damage can crit too, y'know. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Storn SaroeAug 8, 20181 votes

Quinn and Valor needs a rework, but this sounds like the knee jerk reaction of someone who hasn't played them much or for very long. Quinn and Valor are unique as they are roaming ADC assassins, in short the current items, runes and meta are perfect for them which is why they are currently 'busted'. If you give them a tank or team fight meta then they are practically useless except on split push duty. Even now in what is functionally their perfect meta, burst damage wise they get outscaled by other ADCs like Jhin, can easily be out duelled late by other short range ADCs like Vayne and Kai'Sa, not to mention outranged and blown up by most other ADCs like Tristana if it goes late.

The reason why they need a rework though is more for thematic reasons then anything else, but yes when they are ahead the Wings of Demacia are obnoxious to play against.

Elkington VIAug 9, 20181 votes

Quinn isn't an adc, just an assassin. She can also be built like a ranged fighter at top, similar to Jayce/Teemo/Gnar, but she can't function as an adc against anyone remotely decent, she just doesn't have the kit for it. Vayne is more of an adc/assassin because she WILL get out of hand if the game goes on too long, regardless of how she did early. Quinn normally struggles against tanky targets all game.

Storn SaroeAug 14, 20181 votes

I definitely agree they are more Assassin then ADC but they do function in the ADC position. Before their rework when they had a melee mode they were more played as an ADC competitively than any other position (mostly thanks to one guy but hey) and during the entire last patch they were the highest winrate champion in the adc position across almost every ELO (including challenger). There are builds you can go that make them effective into tanks but yeah in general they are not the best at it.

Elkington VIAug 16, 20181 votes

I mainly feel she's an assassin due to her dps pattern. She generally goes in to burst a target, then kites around while her cooldowns refresh. Most adcs by design have the opposite approach when it comes to dealing damage. The only ones that come close to Quinn's playstyle are Graves and Ezreal, but they both boast much better sustained damage than she does and arguably more burst overall.

Quinn is about as much of an adc as Jayce imo, they even build the same.

I knew Stormrazor would push Quinn over the top, as it's practically tailor-made for her toolkit. Once it gets nerfed and/or Duskblade gets removed she probably won't be in too good of a spot without compensation buffs.

Storn SaroeAug 16, 20181 votes

It depends on ELO and situation. Mid lane and in solo que she tends to build more assassin burst (stormrazors/duskblade builds) in top lane it depends a lot on match up.

For instance she was played in the LCK playoffs by Kiin (Afreeca v Gen G - formerly Samsung) and he built BotRK into RFC into IE into GA into Shiv and tabis for boots. That way she had reasonable sustained dps and the tank Jarvan could not enter her lane. Kiin even went W max second (which is pretty common for bot lane Quinn) for better sustained dps from the attack speed and movement speed buff.

Quinn is definitely unique in playstyle as an ADC and she leans more to assassin builds and playstyles but is actually quite versatile and in certain situations it is more optimal to play and build like a more traditional adc (generally other adcs do it better though).

The Stormrazor and Duskblade nerfs will hurt her, especially in mid lane but the AD growth nerf she is getting is going to be worse for top and ADC, that combined with the round of nerfs she just got to her passive damage and base armour which dumpstered her early jg she is going to be pretty bad in general for a bit.

Daddy AntsAug 9, 20181 votes

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Quinn and Valor needs a rework, but this sounds like the knee jerk reaction of someone who hasn't played them much or for very long. Quinn and Valor are unique as they are roaming ADC assassins, in short the current items, runes and meta are perfect for them which is why they are currently 'busted'. If you give them a tank or team fight meta then they are practically useless except on split push duty. Even now in what is functionally their perfect meta, burst damage wise they get outscaled by other ADCs like Jhin, can easily be out duelled late by other short range ADCs like Vayne and Kai'Sa, not to mention outranged and blown up by most other ADCs like Tristana if it goes late.

The reason why they need a rework though is more for thematic reasons then anything else, but yes when they are ahead the Wings of Demacia are obnoxious to play against.

"if it goes late"

Late game in Season 8.

XD XD XD

Lux Is Mai WaifuAug 9, 20181 votes

They don't need a rework, this is just the perfect meta for them. After a nerf every patch until worlds they're going to be dumpstered if riot listens and lowers the damage in the game/increases mitigation.

KlydeFrogAug 16, 20181 votes

Anyone can be broken in this game