Let's be realistic about Zed, Riot. You know he's OP and instead you nerf champions who arent, why?

wRZcGiWq62··7 votes·1,714 views

He is the one of the most OP champs in the game. He is basically the equivalent of LeBlanc pre-silence nerf. His damage is absolutely insane, I can't think of a character who snowballs harder except for maybe a REALLY fed Riven. It is time to address it. You can't keep nerfing champions who don't deserve it and keep overlooking abominations like this. An invulnerability, gap closing escape damage buff ultimate, and another escape on top of it, basically capable of 75%-0% anybody at level 6 with a cutlass or brutalizer and able to get out UNTOUCHED or maybe one turret shot if that player is underneath a turret. Dude is an absolute joke, 1 kill and then every 60 seconds this clown is going to get you no matter what. As a mage you are basically left to try your best to rush a Zhonya's but just trying to farm that up after he's got 1 or 2 kills ahead means every second you are risking snowballing him more. Not to mention unlimited harass from miles away, dude sits under turret and throws shurikens with his ghost that hit the other player at THEIR turret. Be real, it is time to nerf this clown-- people have had their fun. You nerfed LeBlanc, let's nerf Zed.

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Empress Mousie4 votes

If he's so op why isn't his win rate good? Also, I've never had problems beating up zeds.... maybe you need to learn sone more XD

Worst Mid Ever3 votes

TIL having a negative winrate in every bracket of play for over a year = OP

HAIL WHYDRA3 votes

And, if you don't mind me asking, what do you propose Riot should do? Continuous spamming of his abilities depletes energy fast, you have a skillshot meaning you must aim and actually hit the person plus a 60% damage reduction after passing though something else, and that's not even from his shadow q, anyone with a hard cc Leona Braumdestroys him. I'm tired of seeing so many Zed qq threads and no proposition on alleviating his situation.

TheRakkun1 votes

his ult having no escape?

HAIL WHYDRA1 votes

So just removing his ult shadow altogether? Or reverting it to pre-change? No harshness, I've seen this opinion go both ways.

TheRakkun1 votes

Perhaps not the ult shadow it's self, since he can deal extra damage with it, but don't let him swap to it, assassins aren't supposed to have an easy escape.

Talon

thinking man1 votes

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Perhaps not the ult shadow it's self, since he can deal extra damage with it, but don't let him swap to it, assassins aren't supposed to have an easy escape.

Talon

Talon also kills stuff around 6x faster than Zed does.

You're comparing less than a second to 3 seconds.

xX420n0sc0pzXx1 votes

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anyone with a hard cc Leona Braumdestroys him. I'm tired of seeing so many Zed qq threads and no proposition on alleviating his situation.

Are you honestly saying that people should take Leona or Braum mid just to counter Zed? There are much better options.

Narzeim1 votes

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Are you honestly saying that people should take Leona or Braum mid just to counter Zed? There are much better options.

He used them as a couple examples. I don't think he wanted to spend his evening listing every Zed counter. Zhonya's or QSS.

xX420n0sc0pzXx2 votes

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He used them as a couple examples. I don't think he wanted to spend his evening listing every Zed counter. Zhonya's or QSS.

It just seems odd to me that he didn't use a mid laner as an example.

HAIL WHYDRA1 votes

A mid lane example of a counter to Zed would be Kayle. Her kit counters a lot of things in his kit. She has 3 "peels", her slow, her heal/speed buff, and intervention. The only down side to Kayle is that in theory, she beats him. In practice, I have beat Kayles in ranked that choose her just to counter me. They ult too early, or they go too deep to poke. Then again Im bronze, but there are errors on both sides could do to win. Just because a champion or item counters, doesn't mean you cant work your way around it. Now if you'll allow me, Im sorry for bumping this pitiful thread and Ill let it rot now.

MohawkBird3 votes

It's not his assassination potential that annoys me or his high damage. It's his risk factor, which is basically none. If he goes into a fight and realizes he can't win, he can easily just press R to escape. Not to mention laning phase with him is a complete joke. Infinite, high damage poke every 15 seconds or so just can't be competed with.

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

His teamfight is shit. His late-game assassination is one of the most counterable ones just due to how long it takes. He's a pain in the ass to lane against, but he's one of the lowest reward assassins.

wRZcGiWq621 votes

Here's an idea, change his energy to mana, remove the damage amplification from his ult and remove the shadow so he can't teleport back to it. He should be having SOME risk if he wants to go all-in

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

If you remove the %damage dealt from his ult and the shadow, it would do the equivalent of one autoattack at max rank.

That is pitiful. There are plenty of champs with basic abilities who can do that and more.

shalec2 votes

That's a good way to drop Zed's win rate to 20%, and that's being generous.

Yulen Xoshxius1 votes

Just a quick thing to people and the win rate issue: Haven't there have been champions before that have been reported to win the lane but lose the game? Like Yorick? Though in Zed I don't recall Yorick or Teemo getting nerfed much for being unfun to play against.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

AD sion used to shit on zed.

Maokai has ALWAYS countered zed even built pure ap (I did this before his rework/buff)

just sayin

RouterSmiter1 votes

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL explain to me why he doesn't have a 100% pick/ban in lcs

HeraldOne1 votes

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wRZcGiWq621 votes

I already did 3 times

warpenguin5551 votes

Jinx Draven Vayne Fiora Katarina Kalista

theres 6 who snowball harder excluding riven who you already mentioned

Duner1 votes

maybe cuz ur just not good enough, don't blame champs LOL

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