Udyr is a Juggernaut - That begs the question: Why is he so goddamn so squishy?

1M Gold Udyr XD··1 votes·1,084 views

Whether you max W or not, is irrelevant. The guy is squishy as hell.

While Udyr is not a team fight champion, but goddamn that most other Juggernauts have the capability to sustain in teamfights. Garen with passive and W, Darius with his Q, illaoi with an R, Mundo with R, Trundle with a W, R and a passive and Volibear with his Passive. And unlike the other champions, they scale well with health items and a single damage item, because they do % health damage in someway.

Udyr on the other hand, if he doesn't build damage, he is a wet noodle. If he doesn't build tank, he gets destroyed but he is the most useless champion during it. Nevermind that his damage falls off, really hard compared to other fellows here.

Meanwhile Udyr does have a spammable shield, it does jack shit during teamfights when it is on a high cooldown relevant to teamfights burst orientation and it doesn't do any form of damage, and by the time teamfight begins, Udyr has no resistances - his core has been Warrior and Triforce for now - if games get stalled, he is soon begin to lose.

I prefer the old style with Phoenix, where your Jungle item did on-hit damage, healed you and you had lifesteal on W, rather than this useless % healing.

Solutions? Revert his W to lifesteal, and buff his R for time fights, or bring back Sterak's damage as Bonus Base AD at the least. End all.

13 Comments

ANearMiss2 votes

I'd imagine it's because he's so versatile. The dingleberry goes from ADC to tank to CC to Vietnam vet with a flamethrower.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

ANearMiss1 votes

Got a fawkn problem popcorn man? (I'm hilarious.)

Ahri Baka2 votes

Tbh I never knew he's a Juggernaut till now

All other Juggernauts ( I think ) don't have MS Basic Ability like Udyr Juggernauts are immobile Tanky champions with high damage

Because of his E , Udyr feels a bit mobile I always thought of him as a Bruiser or Skirmisher honestly

Epicebixia1 votes

Garen Q gives move speed if you want to count it.

1M Gold Udyr XD1 votes

MS Basic Ability like Udyr

Shyvana's W and R Mundo's R Volibear's Q Garen's Q Trundle's W Skarner's W

Illaoi's W is a mini targeted gap closer Darius has a ranged CC Mordekaiser can build Rylais and his rework has a ranged Grab CC

Ninjas Flossing1 votes

and yet udyr still isn't a juggernaut

Hayaishi22 votes

Because he literally kills people in 2 seconds early game.

1M Gold Udyr XD1 votes

And that's about it. He can kill anyone in level 2 and 3, and there his story ends.

SuicidePlank1 votes

Because most people don't really build tanky on him.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

His rageblade tank build with max R is dead, esp after rageblade nerfs.

And hes more of a bruiser than a jugger at this point.

Epicebixia1 votes

Because you don't build tanky items you build bruiser items.

1M Gold Udyr XD1 votes

Jungler's don't have the luxury to build high tier bruiser items like Triforce and Steraks. Guys like Leesin and Kayn builds Warrior and Black Cleaver and that's about it, they have all the damage and tankiness they need because they have far more sustain than Udyr has and mobility to boot.

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