League of one shots?

Circuits·4/25/2018, 4:40:57 PM·20 votes·10,909 views

Anyone else feel like there are too many champions that can one shot people? I feel like this is a problem. TBH, I am not sure what the solution is. Either boost weaker champions base health or decrease this crazy assassin damage. I feel like if the champion your playing doesn't require at least two full combo's to bring an average adc from 100% health to death than something is wrong. Even a fed Vayne would require two full combo's to bring an average adc from 100% health to death and adc's are supposed to be the damage dealers. Idk, what do you guys think.

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DW Diana4/25/2018, 5:19:57 PM8 votes

It isn't so much 1 shot, its kill pressure. Can they kill you with one rotation and at what hp is it possible. Zed and Talon are well known for their high kill pressure because they can 100-0 you in one skill rotation at level 2-3, as can Kat and several others within the assassin/adc/toplane group. Mages were rarely able to accomplish this so instead had ways to stop this from happening, as did tanks and supports. Now mages are about to be dead, tanks get wrecked early, and supports are the only ones left able to prevent this (against enemy adcs). This means that champions with more kill pressure are becoming increasingly popular and only those that can mimic it will survive. Mages will take electrocute to achieve this as many already are (Syndra, Malz, Lissandra) or suffer the consequences. Tanks will sit under towers waiting for ganks or switch out for top-lane carries like Quinn and Kennen (I've seen so many more Quinn and Kennen toplanes recently), and supports will stop trying to mitigate damage (tanks like Braum and Taric or enchanters like Janna and Saroka), and instead aim do damage themselves (Lux, Zyra, Annie).

In short someone is going to get fed, someone is going to feed, and jungle is going to be the deciding factor for the game. At that point snowball champions will naturally be best which means expect assassin's and adc's everywhere in every game (seen jhin and kai'sa midlane several times in the last two days).

Draehl4/26/2018, 1:30:13 AM4 votes

Nerf all damage AND all regen/shields/heals by ~30%. Should make the blatantly strong damage as well as tank/enchanter strength less blatant. The outliers on both ends of the spectrum will be reduced and then individual champion tweaks can be done to address any major weaknesses.

iiRebs4/26/2018, 12:14:28 AM2 votes

Vayne litterally one shots squishies when she is fed.... I mean there are plenty of clips that show it. One auto-attack... just one.

Bioness4/26/2018, 12:54:26 AM2 votes

Could they increase the health of everyone? Leave champion damage alone, but buff monster damage to compensate. No one will feel "nerfed" and it allows for longer 1v1s that will end in less one-shots.

SenorBobbers4/26/2018, 4:12:48 PM2 votes

"but these champs are worthless if they can't one shot! They have no cc or nuffin" - what most morons have been saying about that

AetherArising4/25/2018, 9:34:05 PM2 votes

i played leona support with my friend on MF.

i ended a 19 min game with 5 kills as a support 4 out of 5 were accidental kills with my W and aftershock

damage creep is really fucking bad if a support can accidentally kill champions without trying xD

makkii4/26/2018, 2:42:48 AM1 votes

You can oneshot with half the roster nowadays.

You can do it with any assasin obviously, any mage with decent base damages can do it with sorcs into obli orb+ Either gun blade or ludens, adc’s can do it(esp Quinn) hell even some tanks can do it (chogath, ap malph etc)

Hell even some supports, like lichbane sona can do it.

Circuits4/26/2018, 2:59:20 AM1 votes

The problem as I see it is that there is a huge lack of counter play. If your argument for why kat should be able to press R and one shot an adc is: "well that adc should have a galio who can swoop in just before the kat arrives and save her" or "vayne should have saved her condem so that she could knock kat out of her ult and run away", well than I would retort: why can't vayne have a fair chance at outplaying the kat? Why must she run away? Why is kat's kit built to one shot in the first place when it should be built to make the user use her/his brain and still win in a sustained fight with any champion let alone an adc. I guess that was the point I was trying to get at. Champions, especially new ones, are designed to burst kill rather than fight prolonged battles and Rito's "answer" to balance the equation seems to be creating champions designed to cc other champions so that fights can be won with one shots by squishy champions. However, I feel that a better solution would be to stop designing champions to one shot or get one shot. Obviously, that is harder than it seems but that doesn't mean the solution does not exist. Just because you can't figure something out doesn't mean there is no solution right? No couple in the fact that those tank champions are actually dealing just as much damage as adc's and you have current meta.

MalL474/26/2018, 10:32:39 AM1 votes

All U have to do is... STOP FEEDING! [slayer-jinx-wink]

SEKAI4/26/2018, 10:48:00 AM1 votes

Even a fed Vayne would require two full combo's to bring an average adc from 100% health to death and adc's are supposed to be the damage dealers.

So much wrong in this:

ADCs are supposed to be sustained damage dealers, but not THE damage dealers.
A fed Vayne kills people within 4-5 AA, and if very fed she only needs 1 to 2 (not kidding, there are quite a few cases where people died to a very fed Vayne under 0.5 seconds because they basically died to a single AA). So idk what you're talking about. ADC is not behind the damage creeps in the game, they're very much at the forefront.

Enderspider4/26/2018, 2:49:35 PM1 votes

problem this meta is that everyone can burst everyone else, except for the assassins, who are supposed to burst people

SirArran4/26/2018, 1:25:41 AM1 votes

But Zoe is OP apparently. or was