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The Eve rework, a mid laner perspective

Evewynn·10/12/2017, 8:04:45 AM·28 votes·3,237 views

Hey guys, long time Eve player here, wanting to weigh in on a side of her that most people don't see (or likely care about) often. You see, I don't really Jungle, but I play a lot of champs mid that probably shouldn't be there. Some are more successful than others, and eve has always been one of those champs that could work Iif you did it right. I'll talk about old eve and how she played, then new eve.

Old eve in lane was a chore. You expected to be harassed a lot in the first few levels, doing what you could to steal CS and maybe poke with a random q here and there. Spamming it could really hurt your mana, but at least the passive could help that somewhat. However, after a gunblade, she could go toe-to-toe with any laner, and had great roams. That strength would continue on into late game, where she would function as a pretty standard assassin.

New eve is way better in lane. No more does she need to cower hoping for CS; the damage potential at level 1 with q alone will deter even the ballsiest of enemy Laners. In addition, her all ins and roams are just as strong. I still rush gunblade due to the sustain and active, and I've been having good results. Her level 6 is great due to the camo and having an ult that ACTUALLY CAN KILL PEOPLE. She also has no mana problems in lane, as q costs almost nothing, w is refunded, and e is only used during all-ins. She transitions great into late game, dealing just as much damage, although she is definitely a bit less safe. Overall sightly worse late game for a better early game. I'd say worth.

I'm very satisfied with the Eve rework. That doesn't seem to be a very popular opinion, but I'm sticking to it. She has awesome visuals, she has a play pattern that makes sense for a stealth character (psychological fear with w, dipping in and out of fights using her passive and ult), and she is just super fun. Maybe I'm biased because I've been playing her at a disadvantageous lane for so long, but I think it's important to have perspective with these kinds of changes.

Good work, riot. You get my stamp of approval.

29 Comments

500000000000000010/12/2017, 4:26:32 PM7 votes

Riot's new assassin designs have been pretty interesting. A lot of ways to add delayed burst without putting the assassin in danger, and also give the target a way to play against the damage other than building tanky. Looks like they've learned more since the assassin update.

Shaydrox10/12/2017, 11:50:29 AM4 votes

I think most junglers are having troubles because she's worse at running straight at somebody now, while a good flank will net very nice results. Maybe she's still weak but she will definitely be doing better once people figure this out.

Kinda reminds me when my Talon was reworked, I first hated the rework since he lost so much power in his gapcloser but later I realized he does fine if you change your approach to the target.

I like how Riot designs difficulty in assassins, some have complex combos and some have difficulty approaches to a fight. Eve is a good rework imo, but hard to balance at first due to upcoming rune changes and all.

Sraeg201310/12/2017, 5:38:57 PM4 votes

Her Q damage may be high, but she has zero ways of getting in range to use it against pretty much everybody with a functioning brain and/or any kind of movement impairing CC.

lolipopevelynn10/12/2017, 9:09:50 PM2 votes

i can tell you right now that old eve had a better laning than new eve simply because old eve could CS and cheese with her stealth. new eve, if your enemy has even 25% of a brain, will just stay behind minions and poke you down. your CSing early is heavily gated by the 6 SEC CD after 3 spikes of Q + lower dmg.

you can easily force eve mid to work in normals, but you can force anything to work in normals. in ranked its not at all a good idea. if you are up against another melee assassin such as zed/fizz, or even kass you can also make it work, but anyone with range and especially range + CC will be impossible to lane against unless they are just that bad.

old eve could W and rely on her stealth to get close enough to ranged enemies, new eve no longer has that advantage till 6, and even at 6 she lost her W. there is just way too many problems with new eves lane to list. old eves lane wasnt the best or ideal at all, but it was better than new eve.

YuGiHo10/12/2017, 9:49:53 PM2 votes

With her passive in lane you can take really unfavorable trades and then just regen most of your hp and now fight again now that you have most of your hp back .

as a jungler, i do it with some ganks and then they think im gone because i lost almost all my hp i show up again at 80% life

Zennyo10/12/2017, 9:43:35 PM1 votes

The only thing I'd really like is if they made the sound muffle and pink tint during her stealth togglable or at least less prominent.

Linna Excel10/13/2017, 1:15:12 AM1 votes

I'm very satisfied with the Eve rework. That doesn't seem to be a very popular opinion

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I have no idea what you are talking about. Every pro rework thread I've seen has been upvoted, every one that didn't like it has been downvoted.

O Fallen Scholar10/12/2017, 8:56:36 PM1 votes

Can't even play her atm. Bans all time.