Is It Wrong To Feel Like Caitlyn Traps are Too Prevalent? (In every known sense of the word)

MinaZer0·Jan 26, 2017·7 votes·634 views

TFW 'certain' traps don't have hp but others do, they either all should have health, be disabled by / or none at all, I mean it isn't that difficult to change, they changed traps THIS patch(7.2).

annoying Refer to above 4 idk mid - late game, def become death traps. is a special case because her traps are delayed and VERY temporarily active once thrown. not REALLY traps but meh I digress.

9 Comments

AngrychickénJan 26, 20172 votes

So what I don't understand is how everyone is disagreeing. Half the boards say that ADCs are weak and trash. The other half says they are overpowered and need to be nerfed.

Critmaster GarenJan 26, 20172 votes

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So what I don't understand is how everyone is disagreeing. Half the boards say that ADCs are weak and trash. The other half says they are overpowered and need to be nerfed.

both are correct.

adc are trash right now, because of general changes to the map layout, and increased snowballing.

all early game attention is focused around bot lane right now. constant jungle pressure and 4 man roams for that sweet champion first blood + turret first blood + drake control onto that lane prevents adc from being able to farm up to their powerspikes.

games snowball out of control off those gangbangs and end early before adc scale to a point where theyre really relevant.

however, once they actually hit their main powerspikes theyre downright stupid. they deal so much damage, that with 1 or 2 lifesteal items and warlords they can drain tank half the champion pool in melee without the need to kite.

assassins have been nerfed in a way to increase the time they need to apply their burst, which often leads to lategame adc just killing them in 1v1 situations by critting them 2 or 3 times in a row before the assassin can get his abilities off.

heck, Caitlyn with her headshot combo is a better assassin than most assassins right now. and vayne still 2 shots squishies from stealth with her q crits. its fucking stupid.

AngrychickénJan 26, 20171 votes

I find that adcs are actually fine five man bot lane ganks are easy to prevent with mid lane mia pings and proper warding.

Critmaster GarenJan 26, 20171 votes

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I find that adcs are actually fine five man bot lane ganks are easy to prevent with mid lane mia pings and proper warding.

so you dont see anything wrong with adc turning into drain tanks and outbursting fucking assassins? champions like twitch just sitting in melee of a garen, pressing r and stat checking him through his spin? their lategame is retarded.

the only thing that saves us right now is that theyre having trouble getting to it.

AngrychickénJan 26, 20171 votes

And that's the thing Who cares if they have a ridiculous late game if it never happens. Also, for most lower elos, people have no idea what "scaling" is. They have an early disadvantage and they are convinced they've lost.

Critmaster GarenJan 26, 20171 votes

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And that's the thing Who cares if they have a ridiculous late game if it never happens. Also, for most lower elos, people have no idea what "scaling" is. They have an early disadvantage and they are convinced they've lost.

at some point riot is going to fiddle around with game mechanics and reduce snowballing. theyre already in the process of messing with the jungle, which will reduce pressure on bot lane over short or long.

we will eventually end up in a meta where gametimes are increasing again, and adc regularly scale into the absurd. the fact that theyre additionally buffing certain adc right now doesnt help at all.

so yea, i kinda do care.

tristana doesnt need buffs. draven doesnt need buffs, fucking kallista sure as hell shouldnt have been buffed. instead they need to nerf champions lategames like twitch, cait and vayne. while at the same time do what theyre doing now and attempt to reduce snowballing and increase game times overall.

AngrychickénJan 26, 20171 votes

Then champions like Fiora and Azir will dominate as well, the problem with draintanking is cc. cc gives no chance to heal from autos. It gives you a huge opening.

HethaleanJan 26, 20171 votes

They are annoying and tiny in a game with a lot of visual and audio noise. It makes them easy peasy to miss also god help you if you enter the bush wrong.

ProfirixJan 26, 20171 votes

Something needs to be done about chaining Caitlyn traps into bindings, like Morgana or Lux. You can dodge skillshots for days, but that one time you get caught, it is pretty much a guaranteed death. You should have a small window to flash or something before the trap activates after coming out of a root. There is currently no counterplay.