About that Sona nerf...

Fisk··3 votes·554 views

Umm... While I get the anger about the power chord nerf, why are we mad about the ms nerf? I mean it was 5 ms on a champion with a pretty strong AoE ms buff... I'm as happy to get out my pitch fork as the next guy but why the salt on this one? (p.s. friendly reminder that Lee Sin still is a pain :D).

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Norscout4 votes

They won't be happy until Sona has to start E just to get to lane before minions do

Pika3101 votes

It's NOT that players are mad about the MS nerf. Players are mad that this is the 21st nerf she's received since July. That's not an exaggeration, it's an exact number. Rito is nerfing her relentlessly without justification despite community protest and the fact that she used to be a perfectly balanced C-class champion before all of this began.

Origami Kaiju1 votes

E is not a powerful movement speed buff until late game after you've leveled your ult and have some AP. Early game (pre 6), the ms buff is very small, and the ability is pretty much only useful for it's powerchord.

SELF BONUS MOVEMENT SPEED:** 13** / 14 / 15 / 16 / 17% (+ 7.5% per 100 AP) (+ 2% x Crescendo.png Crescendo's rank)

That means that just considering base ms at level one (325), if you used E you would get a speed boost of 42 to equal 367ms that decays to 357ms over 3 seconds.

That means that you will basically be walking a little faster than a bootless Lee Sin for 3 seconds. The ability is absolutely *not * spammable early, seeing as it's got a 12 second cd.

Now, consider the other supports that have a base 325 movement speed - Soraka, Zyra, Lulu.

All of these champions have a way to peel for themselves if they get jumped on early (pre 6). Soraka has equinox, Lulu has polymorph, and zyra has grasping roots.

Sona literally has no form of cc to protect herself or peel, outside of E's powerchord and her ult.

Meanwhile Nami has 335 base ms, she can use bubble to peel for herself/her carry and she get's speed boosts just by her passive. Her ms was a crazy 340 up until patch 4.13, which made her have one of the highest base ms of any support.

**This nerf just doesn't make any sense in regards to Sona's kit and how she aligns with the other supports. **

Fisk1 votes

nami has really no tank and her abilities are hard to land so therefore she has higher ms to kite better. Sona ms buff (13%) is 42.5 ms to sona at level one and around the same for her allies. You're gonna tell me thats small... bruh... come on... And she can make her self fairly tanky w/ her W. Also she depends on being next to allies (like RIGHT next to) in a way that none of those other supports actually do which means she doesn't actually need as much peel because there is a smaller chance of her getting caught out. I agree sona needs some tweaks (especially to her poke) but come on, pitchforking over 5. FIVE. FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVEEEEE. Movement speed just seems somewhat unneeded.

Origami Kaiju1 votes

I'm totally not pitchforking at all. I understand that it's only 5 ms. Honestly, it's not a big deal at all once you hit 6. And like others said, one thing that's annoying about it is she's had sooooooo many nerfs, this is just icing on the cake. However, I do feel that this ms nerf just makes no sense in regards to base movement speeds across the board.

But, I totally get where you're coming from. And honest, if this was the only nerf Sona would be getting we probably wouldn't be having this conversation, but like I said this nerf on top of all her others is just ridiculous.

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