jungler blaming in a counter lane

falldown010·Dec 31, 2015·2 votes·488 views

alright , lets get started

you are in a counter lane, you manage to hold your end, but he's really agresive, you dont die to him , and keep defening your tower , but he keeps pushing it and tries to deny you farm , you keep haning on until 20 min,

so the jungler decicdes items are important, you know, gotta get those rageblades, devour and completed boots first

he decides to gank once, and misses his stun, you both die , and the game continues, you keep strungling in the end you surrender

so who's at fault, and why ?

_*keep in mind you are in a counter lane,and the enemy is being aggresively denying you farm but you know how to hang on _

edit: akali vs kennen with thunderlords with ignite , getting pushed to a tower, with a pink ward sitting on top, jungler passes all the time but leaves me be, now that you additional information, try again

10 Comments

A New HorizonDec 31, 20151 votes

Hmmmm the laner because once you back he has basically use all of his mana unless he is a CD champion then you should go in and destroy him with your jungler.

Asayake 5150glowDec 31, 20151 votes

I mean, it doesn't say in the OP that you did anything wrong, and the jungler missed their stun so jungler obviously.

junglerboy16Jan 1, 20161 votes

I'd say in that case, it's the jungler's fault. I am normally the jungler in that situation, and if I didn't invest early into turning a counter lane around, then I have to suffer the consequences. This is true especially if it were for greedy reasons (like getting myself better items) but if I was taking the time to hardcore snowball other lanes instead, then I'd say nobody was at fault.

If I were the lane, I'd have to know two things, did I knowingly pick into a counter like this? If so it's 100% my fault. If I got counter picked, then I'd expect at least marginal jungle support since I couldn't help the issue. If I was holding but gradually losing, and had no support from the jungler for most of the match, then i would 100% blame the jungler for coming to my lane and feeding a kill when it was clear I was not in a position to fight the enemy laner. That said, if I really got counterpmicked that hard, I should have roamed and gotten some kills or objectives instead of sitting under tower waiting to be saved by a jungle gank.

falldown010Jan 1, 20161 votes

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I'd say in that case, it's the jungler's fault. I am normally the jungler in that situation, and if I didn't invest early into turning a counter lane around, then I have to suffer the consequences. This is true especially if it were for greedy reasons (like getting myself better items) but if I was taking the time to hardcore snowball other lanes instead, then I'd say nobody was at fault.

If I were the lane, I'd have to know two things, did I knowingly pick into a counter like this? If so it's 100% my fault. If I got counter picked, then I'd expect at least marginal jungle support since I couldn't help the issue. If I was holding but gradually losing, and had no support from the jungler for most of the match, then i would 100% blame the jungler for coming to my lane and feeding a kill when it was clear I was not in a position to fight the enemy laner. That said, if I really got counterpmicked that hard, I should have roamed and gotten some kills or objectives instead of sitting under tower waiting to be saved by a jungle gank.

blind pick, so there was no knowing who would get picked, and i ended getting a kennen with ignite and thunderlords wasnt exactly fun :')

junglerboy16Jan 1, 20161 votes

Yeah, in that case I'd say do your best to roam and snowball other lanes if you aren't receiving help with your lane. Getting a kill or assist and some map pressure makes up for being bullied around by a counter pick in the long run.

falldown010Jan 3, 20161 votes

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Yeah, in that case I'd say do your best to roam and snowball other lanes if you aren't receiving help with your lane. Getting a kill or assist and some map pressure makes up for being bullied around by a counter pick in the long run.

tried to , but kennen was pushing my lane and the pressure was real, he kept forcing me back into the lane or i would lose the tower

Kal Vas FlamJan 1, 20161 votes

You're both bad and should feel bad for being bad.

falldown010Jan 1, 20161 votes

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You're both bad and should feel bad for being bad.

same awnser as the people below you, scroll down

Melee FormJan 1, 20161 votes

Junglers fault for a bad gank, your fault for losing the game. The farm you get each game is pretty low. Even in winning games you don't go much higher than 100 cs.

falldown010Jan 1, 20161 votes

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Junglers fault for a bad gank, your fault for losing the game. The farm you get each game is pretty low. Even in winning games you don't go much higher than 100 cs.

how can you farm when you get pushed under your tower and he's sitting on top you literly on the tower, and the jungler passes see's what happens, and ignores it,

keep in mind its a serious counter, kennen with thunderlord with ignite also it was blind pick, and farming cs becomes very difficult since he kept me away from my tower