Riot left out one champion that didn't get updated after the removal of DFG

Kerzooh·4/5/2015, 7:47:55 AM·50 votes·3,891 views

I'm talking about the champion Evelynn.

I'm still an Evelynn main and thankfully still reached Diamond V, despite all her changes and presumably past nerfs.

While I appreciate the recent updates ( Make Evelynn dissapear faster, Change her passive movement speed W to reduce CDR W, +1% more mana when stealthed)

I feel like Evelynn has been cheaped a compensation. I remember when DFG Evelynn was definitely one of the most fun builds to play, because it enhanced evelynn's burst. Riot changed her E to physical damage so DFG wouldn't stack on Evelynn.

However, with the DFG removal, I feel like Evelynn's ravage( E skill) should be made hybrid damage again, instead of full physical damage. The reason being is that as AD Mids become more and more popular, It doesn't make sense for people to stack full armor and be able to reduce Evelynn's burst damage despite her building AP. If you have an AD mid/top/BOT with Eve jungle, people should not be able to treat that comp as full AD and just stack armor.

With items like Frozen heart/thornmail/randiuns becoming standard for many champions, It puts Evelynn under the curve when most of her damage is negated even though she builds AP , but her E skill outputs it's damage as physical instead and gets reduced.

If you are an evelynn jungler, and everybody else on your team is ALL AD/ all AP, it should be Evelynn's advantage to be able to choose to build AD/AP freely to have more versatile damage.

Evelynn is a really fun champion to play, but she is squishy, no hard CC, no gap closers, struggles in the jungle, still has mana issues all because she has a little stealth, that cannot even get close to a champion that real stealthed units would ( shaco, twitch, talon.. etc).

The only thing I ask is that her E can do any type of damage that she builds.

Thanks for the read. I appreciate it .

57 Comments

Nameless Voice4/5/2015, 10:07:45 AM23 votes

But she did get compensated for the removal of DFG - she got a massive nerf to her W (which may or may not be reverted next patch.)

Antonok4/5/2015, 7:50:53 AM12 votes

Evelynn is one of those champs Riot wants to forget about until her rework.

And as someone who occasionally plays her, I'd rather Riot not 'compensate' Eve. Shes in a tough spot atm anyhow.

chavyy1424/5/2015, 4:22:58 PM6 votes

Kinda disappointed this wasn't about garen. I think she should also get minimum damage on her ult.

Transgressor4/5/2015, 10:38:01 AM4 votes

TL:DR JUST FUCKING REWORK HER ALREADY

cheers

Worst Mid Ever4/5/2015, 11:42:59 AM3 votes

5.7 PBE notes say

Hate Spike [ Q ]

  • Base damage increased from 30/45/60/75/90 to 40/55/70/85/100

Eve mid freelo was the most cancerous time in LoL history, I had 4 friends go from Silver/Gold to Diamond off her alone, would be glad to see her remain unviable.

Champion Skin4/6/2015, 2:24:47 AM2 votes

Actually that 1% --> 2% wasn't really a buff.... It was 1% of MAX mana --> 2% of MISSING mana

XxxLumberJackxxX4/6/2015, 1:12:03 PM2 votes

And AP warwick

AbstracT Theory4/5/2015, 2:04:55 PM1 votes

you have your fun with eve in urf while she is broken as fuck. i used to main eve in season 3.. didnt get me anywhere but was lots of fun

Dreadlocks4/6/2015, 1:22:59 AM1 votes

I agree with you 100%, however, I strongly feel a lot of "hybrid" champions have lost their flavor in general. Even with the buff to item 3146 a champion like Jax who you think would love this item builds item 3153 .. mostly because of the attack speed that jax needs.. but you get the point.. Hybrid has faded and things are less diverse in terms of damage types.. its either AD or AP.. very little mixed.. unless its true damage of course.. lol

edit: I think Fizz is the best "hybrid" champ right now, and people hate it :) perhaps that is why riot is careful about "hybrid" champs

ElysMustache4/5/2015, 1:37:42 PM1 votes

Was hoping thread was about Poppy.

Sirsir4/6/2015, 3:39:29 AM1 votes

Hate to interrupt the circlejerk, but she got Ludens. And (for some people) the renewed Gunblade.

Chaotic Reks4/6/2015, 9:53:04 AM1 votes

Well... she's been changed to AD..........

Kalarepa4/6/2015, 10:02:12 AM1 votes

One champion? Lich Bane nerf and DFG remove was giant middle finger to all rare AP builds. At least we have Luden's Echo now, that helps a little.

Snomi4/10/2015, 11:04:17 PM1 votes

Evelynn got LUDENS which is a great item on her! Especially in mid. Yeah the W change is kinda meh, but the recent Q buffs are great. I have been playing her mid recently after I saw Alex Ich and Keane playing her, and have made a guide on how I build her: http://www.lolking.net/guides/338383

Very fun and you can oneshot people with one QE combo.

Blainezy4/6/2015, 1:56:10 PM1 votes

Ludens is still really good on her. Also, if you feel depressed just play her in URF. She's so broken lol

Doctor Dyment4/6/2015, 5:58:44 PM1 votes

Well, considering the fact that Evelynn players who built Deathfire Grasp enhanced their own experiences at the cost of others, I don't really want her in the current meta. But what I want doesn't matter, as I know that I am biased when it comes to liking some champions and not liking others. So, if Riot makes Evelynn so that she can exist in the current meta on a level with everyone else, I won't be happy. Not one bit. But I'll also see that rationally, other people need to be happy. Not just me. So sure, change her E. But I am willing to bet that they won't.

Kerzooh4/6/2015, 11:01:05 PM1 votes

I wonder what Riot's plan for Evelynn is. Are they planning to rework her? Are they planning to consistantly buff her in small increments? Are they thinking about the possibility that Evelynn could be put into other lanes? Love to hear some sort of comment :x

Lissama4/5/2015, 3:47:44 PM1 votes

Better change Q to physical damage, and make her as AD assassin. It is so much more interesting and healthier, than boring AP Eve.