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Evelynn is unplayable

Kerzooh·12/10/2014, 9:45:13 PM·81 votes·16,888 views

I am a diamond V Evelynn Main, and i find it hard to play the champion i love most .

It dosn't matter where i start, but after a leash RED + another jungle camp, It dosn't seem like i can kill the 3rd camp/ blue buff. Evelynn is just way too squishy and that also makes her slower in jungle camps.

With the additional patch, where purple smite got 15 second increase, her clears are now slower, and it is harder to play the jungle.

In lolking, her win rate has dived to 40% once, and this week, her win rate rised slightly to 42% .

Edit: Once she recalls, she will also only be level 2, not level 3. That means she cannot put a point in "W" to speed back into the jungle phase, Once she returns to jungle, she will have whichever smite, to kill blue/ or red / gromp/golems, in which after killing the first jungle monster and the second, she will also barely be able to kill a 3rd camp, leading her to recall once more.

Evelynn overall is hard -unplayable because she was squishy to begin with, and now has a hard time catching up in jungle, but now if she does not get ahead in game, she cannot afford to buy items to get enough gold to stay tanky

123 Comments

RiotRiot Scruffy12/11/2014, 10:11:51 PM28 votes

The Live Gameplay team was looking at her for some buffs in the next patch. I think that jungling speed/safety is an area of focus that they're trying to improve. She has an especially weak first clear, we agree.

Dominick Destine12/10/2014, 11:01:14 PM14 votes

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Unfeeling12/10/2014, 10:53:10 PM11 votes

There are a lot of problems with Evelynn right now. She is a fragile champion that's very weak against other junglers in comparison to sustainable/mobile champions such as Lee Sin, Jarvan, and Warwick. I agree that she is unplayable for this current meta because all the jungle camps are harder to clear and the monsters are buffed. I am hoping for a patch that will give her a buff instead of nerfing her.

A Retarded Clown12/11/2014, 10:50:55 PM8 votes

I don't understand how perma stealth (fake stealth at that) is even an issue considering that Eve more than pays for it with her kit. No Hard CC, no CC at all minus ult, no AA steroids, no escape move unless a kill is secured, no ranged damage spell minus long CD ult and hybrid scaling.

Meanwhile you have guys like Panth/VI/J4/Lee SIn who have multiple gap closers/autoattack evades/stuns/scaling damage/ArPen/escape/Shields/Tanky Build Path/etc etc.

It's like ppl haven't played D&D style games where assassin/rogues are SUPPOSED to have the battlefield/positioning advantage whereas mages have control/burst and warriors have more Damage and CC/Defense depending on type.

Eve is SUPPOSED to sneak up behind you and make smart 1 v 2's that you don't see coming, she trades for it dearly in her stats...that's how she's designed. In exchange for that, if she's caught out in the open you auto win any fight even 1 v 2 most times simply because of how weak she is, your job is just trying to outplay her by making her play her hand too early.

But what....this is LoL where the only 'outplay' is Vayne spamming Q against melee champs annd dodging all their CC or some one pressing Zhonya's. Classic D&D strategic depth has been thrown out the window in this game and all labelled toxic by both devs and community. Bruisers complain about Ranged for doing what they are supposed to do, Ranged complain about assassins for doing their job, and tanks are so nerfed and poorly designed that they cannot fulfill their job outside the support role while 'berserker' type champions have been designed so pathetically that they've been the laughing stock of the game outside bronze elo since before s1 begin....and these things called bruisers also got made. Biggest mistake LoL ever made...there's a reason bruisers don't exist outside of LoL in any game

HeadHonchkrow12/11/2014, 10:12:46 AM6 votes

Eve needs a buff. Or two or five or 17.

Linna Excel12/11/2014, 4:16:04 AM5 votes

Evelynn has to base after first buff and is easily counterjungled. I agree she needs work on her kit, but riot is dragging their feet on her.

Auryiel12/11/2014, 4:48:29 AM5 votes

I wish they'd just completely rework her ulti and bring back eve mid That champ was so fun to play, even after the nerfs. The E damage type change just killed it completely, though.

XuWarrior12/11/2014, 8:35:19 AM5 votes

What Evelynn Should be :

1)Invisible champion = pressure at early game(mega early game , fear of gank) 2) good DMG at mid game 3) Fall off at Late game

Live version:

  1. There is no pressure from her at Early game bc Jungle is so hard that she will not gank you with 100 HP 2)No more Mana regen for her(she has mega problems with mana, spirit stone out) 3)Mid game of her is bad , due to nerfs and GOLD starvation and build path. 4)She Fallin off even more harder in late game
Alëk12/11/2014, 6:43:55 AM4 votes

Sejuani was right up there with her, but they buffed her this patch. I'm really hope they do something for Eve soon.

Bresn12/11/2014, 1:20:24 AM4 votes

Eve was already squishy prior to the new jungle. They made jungle insanely harder and they buffed her like... 5 AD or some crap like that.

She went from "unstable" to "Yorrick"

Sukishoo12/11/2014, 4:04:03 AM4 votes

I loved playing her for the last 2 seasons and now with the jungle changes... she's so useless. Can barely clear 2 camps before having to back... it's just WTF ?! I had to run high defense pages in order even get any where in one game.

Tis a nice day12/11/2014, 8:56:01 AM3 votes

Minor buff to armor, Minor buff to initial attack speed, Add a twinkle of flat base damage onto her ult,

And that is all I can ask for.

ReportThisRiven12/11/2014, 7:38:35 PM3 votes

Idk if this will solve all your problems but here's what I've found about squishes in the new jungle

  1. Never start red buff - if you start red you are squandering the strong heal you get from smiting red. You need that hp to make up for the lack of pots
  2. First clear always sucks, expect to back at lvl 3 after 3 camps
  3. Get good leash and save smite for red okay numbers somewhat redundant but here's what I recommend as Evelyn. -Start blue and get GOOD leash, tell them u will save smite and will need extra help. Then go clear wolves pots as needed. Then get red and smite when health goes below half. There ya go lvl3 enough gold to upgrade machete and get pots. If u feel you need the bot leash and your on blue side, start Krugs with good leash then take red and smite for health then go for blue or smaller camp To hit 3. (Not as ideal as starting blue cause i think you may be oom by the time you get to blue :/ sorry never played evelynn) but I hope this helps you in the new jungle friend!
Skia Asteri12/10/2014, 9:50:59 PM2 votes

Get a spell vamp quint, now you can do three camps.

And flat AP instead of scaling. Why are you complaining about her early when using late game runes?

MasterBlaster12/11/2014, 4:51:54 PM1 votes

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2ow9zb/evelynn_dont_give_up_on_her_yet_xpost_from/

Azirious Mistake12/11/2014, 3:26:06 AM1 votes

Have you considered playing her in lane? mana problems aside she can roam pretty decently with ult and permastealth.

Support Evelynn12/16/2014, 10:50:32 PM1 votes

Evelynn's clears are on par, if not better, than most tanks and can easily gank early. I don't see the issue here, besides the fact that your game knowledge on how to clear in the new jungle is piss poor.

If you want a jungler who was killed with the changes because of early clearings look at Wukong.

The REAL issue here is the fact that she needs to snowball that much harder and needs to build a ton more damage to succeed. Evelynn is weak, she is NOT unplayable.