@Riot @Meddler: What is your opinion about Kalista current state?

Ale non è male··1 votes·1,527 views

Among the marksmen involved in the marksmen update during the 5.22 pre-season patch, she is overall the champ that has been touched the least by the update and by the susbequent balance adjustments

In an even bigger measure than in last season, she is actually a top tier, highly contested, champ in pick/ban phase who can fit pretty much in every team comp and offer multiple strengths to the team (sustained damage, objective control, vision, CC through ulti). It doesn't seem like her overall status and success at the top of marksmen chain s going to change soon, except for 1-2 patch outliners (like 6.3 Kog for example that is going to be nerfed), as no change for her is actually in store on 6.4 patch actually on PBE. Some bot lane champs, both marksmen and support are not actually in the meta because they can't deal with a Kalista bot lane

So, as thread title, what is your opinion about Kalista current state?

Are you satisifed of the effects of the marksmen update on her? Do you think she is in an appropriate state and other non meta marksmen need buffs or do you think she is too strong and she will need some nerf in the foreseeable future? Do you think her kit is fine as it actually is or do you think her kit is a bit too overloaded and she need to cut out some excessive strength? And if she needs to cut on some strength, what it would be the likely target?

Thanks

11 Comments

disregardable1 votes

Her pickrate is only at 10%. Outside of competitive, she's barely in this meta at all, let alone defining it.

Ale non è male1 votes

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Her pickrate is only at 10%.

At Diamond+ is steadily between 15 and 20% in EUW and above 15% in NA as pick rate Kalista is definitively in the meta right now

disregardable1 votes

Idk what site you're using, but it's not champion.gg

http://champion.gg/champion/Kalista

Ale non è male1 votes

http://www.bestbans.com/trends/singleChamp

Kalista, Pick rate, 7 or 30 days

disregardable1 votes

yeah, you should use champion.gg instead.

Ale non è male1 votes

Except, you were proven wrong, unless you want to argue that Diamond is yet competitive (?)

Authomated data is authomated data, if you check other sites like lolking they show you the exact same thing and, for how good champion gg is as site, the fact that you don't have rates for the various elo is relevant when the pick rate of a champ greatly changes across the various elos

Here is lolking diamond ranked pick rate, and it confirms what the other site say

http://www.lolking.net/champions/kalista?region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond#statistics

Master + pick rate

http://www.lolking.net/champions/kalista?region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=challenger#statistics

disregardable1 votes

Champion.gg gives you all of the current patch's Platinum+ ranked games thus far across KR, EU, and NA averaged together, so you can get an accurate idea of how the champion is doing.

I'm going to trust the statistics site before I trust lolking/op.gg. You don't have to, obviously, but either way you're wrong about Kalista's influence on the meta. This is the Lucian/Kogm'aw/Ezreal meta, and every site says that.

Ale non è male1 votes

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I'm going to trust the statistics site before I trust lolking/op.gg. You don't have to, obviously, but either way you're wrong about Kalista's influence on the meta.

Lol, wut? The data about pick rate is taken by every site thorugh the same method, the Riot APIs Champion gg number is lower because it mex together platinum + diamond + tiers above diamond together, and being platinum games much more than diamond one the number is lowered

On every site you check you can see that Kalista pick rate goes up as the tier goes up, and at Diamond, which is not competitive yet, the data is way above 10% you mentioned

In Korea Kalista pick rate in Diamond is > 20%

http://www.lolking.net/champions/kalista?region=kr&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond#statistics

Furor Nexis1 votes

IMO, as far as a champion goes, Kalista is fairly balanced. Her kit is nice and clean, and generally no crit apart from Runaans is usually built on her. Yet she still outclasses alot of crit champs simply cause of her kiting style and kit built around her. In the current age of crit meta atm, Kalista is one of the few reliable ADC's who doesn't need crit to shit on everyone. All you need is a rend here or there, or a Fate's Call escape/knockup and hey presto, you can turn things around or save lives.

Ale non è male1 votes

Any other thoughts?

Ale non è male1 votes

no one?

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