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I may have thought of a way to solve Riven's Animation Cancer-*ahem*Cancelling.

Jacknife·6/25/2015, 6:33:25 PM·2 votes·649 views

So recently I've been seeing a lot of Riven's in my games. Even in my smurf account that i'm trying to level I'm seeing a riven in either my team, or the enemy team. I don't have much of a problem with this, I'm at a low enough elo where very few can actually pull off the animation cancelling technique that apparently makes her god tier (again). The few that can pull it off though... I might as well double jungle, I'd get more gold that way. So with all the Riven's coming up out of the woodwork, its made me think of ways to solve this conundrum. The best idea I've come up with, which keeps Riven playing like Riven without necessarily gutting her damage, is to have her passive stack differently than it does currently. As it stands, it gives her bonus damage per auto attack after using an ability, and you can do that up to three times. Instead of this, you have the bonus damage stack for each ability you use, instead of a set amount you can use up to three times. This way, if Riven try's to animation cancel in between Broken Wings, her damage is reduced significantly, but if she uses one auto attack after her full cast, it'll hurt almost as much as if she worked three autos into her combo(the damage will be reduced slightly since it'll be quite a lot of damage in one auto, especially late game). It'll keep Riven bursty (possibly burstier) but at least the damage can be avoided, unlike in her current state. If anyone can give different or better ideas, I'd love to see what you come up with :).

6 Comments

Jacknife6/25/2015, 6:47:58 PM2 votes
  1. Nuke is a huge overstatement, at best the new passive would do around 200 extra damage will 3 full stacks at lvl 18.
  2. I want Riven to be played how she should, not because of an exploit that gives her free extra damage that you can't move from. If you can get hit by Broken Wings, you can get hit by the animation cancel, and hard CC only delays the inevitable unless you have the movement to back it up.
  3. I asked for better ideas if you have them, so if you're going to judge me this harshly then I ask for an idea to back it up, or even a simple "I think her animation cancelling is fine".
Chaotic Sage6/25/2015, 7:17:47 PM2 votes

I don't think that this is going to solve any problems you have with her... as all you're really proposing is a minor damage reduction entwined with easier to accomplish damage for people that don't grasp the concept of the animation cancel.

Lord Dusteon6/25/2015, 6:37:44 PM1 votes

So you want Riven's who use her passive well nerfed...and Riven's who just mash QEWQQ to get a huge nuke without any skill.

Jacknife6/25/2015, 7:43:43 PM1 votes

  1. Ok I'll give you that, its a bad nerf, but numbers like that can be tweaked (also your second stab at what I'm suggesting is correct).

  2. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/R12g5sUE-broken-wings-q-now-auto-cancels-its-animation-allowing-riven-to-attack-much-faster-after-using-q?comment=000c Riot comment saying it's an unexpected development, meaning she wasn't built around it, and it's a bug that hasn't been fixed. Her combo's should come from her combo's, not a bug.

  3. That's the problem, the counterplay window shrank tremendously. She outputs it so fast that before you can stop her and she chunks your health, then dashes away like nothing happened. On top of that she's hitting when she shouldn't, which is why I say free extra damage.