Vayne Base attack damage lowered to 50.46 from 53.46 Attack damage growth increased to 3.5 from 3.25
Yeah thanks Riot that will make such a big difference now finally she will be weak in lane with those 3 AD lost and increased AD at lategame!!!!
Seriously.... can we have a real nerf and not just one to make ppl shut up?
TeemoJenkins4 votesDo you actually understand the mathematical principles behind the game? This is a pretty significant reduction for her, specifically in her early game trading power. It's PBE also, which means not final... I'm assuming you haven't tested this to see how it effects her power curve... so really confused why you're bitching.
Penns2 votesBecause less than 3 AD matters so much... In a fast early trade she lost like what? 15 damage, if not less? lol
Penguin Eclipse1 votesDo you actually understand the mathematical principles behind the game? This is a pretty significant reduction for her, specifically in her early game trading power. It's PBE also, which means not final... I'm assuming you haven't tested this to see how it effects her power curve... so really confused why you're bitching.
I don't know if I would call that significant. Most Vayne's don't really start trading until lv 3. At which point this 3 AD reduction is only 2.5 AD. With armor taken into effect the actual AD reduction against champions is even less. We are literally talking about ~2 actual damage. A slight change in runes or masteries can easily make up for this nerf from the get go.
I would call this a pretty insignificant nerf.
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I don't know if I would call that significant. Most Vayne's don't really start trading until lv 3. At which point this 3 AD reduction is only 2.5 AD. With armor taken into effect the actual AD reduction against champions is even less. We are literally talking about ~2 actual damage. A slight change in runes or masteries can easily make up for this nerf from the get go.
I would call this a pretty insignificant nerf.
It's a start, so they can test - that's how the PBE works. If they find her curve is still too high, they will diminish more... or they will come to the conclusion that it's not her values at all - it's just that people don't know how to play against her (As her lower WR in Plat+ shows) and leave her untouched.
Penns1 votesVayne is by far the best adc in the game, basically nothing beats her, she is literal cancer in every elo. I see enough dia+ players complain about her, even XJ9 the god made a whole video about her lol. You actually think 3 ad with compensation is close to being enough to even test? This nerf seems more like a joke I wouldve made... Kinda like reducing Irelias E dmg by a bit being the only change to her since the beginning of 2012.
Ralanr3 votesDo you actually understand the mathematical principles behind the game? This is a pretty significant reduction for her, specifically in her early game trading power. ** It's PBE also, which means not final**... I'm assuming you haven't tested this to see how it effects her power curve... so really confused why you're bitching.
Sense motherfuckers! This person speaks it.
TeemoJenkins1 votesSense motherfuckers! This person speaks it.
+1 for Pulp Fiction Reference.
Baseball3b1 votesKeep in mind they're waiting to see what the Marksmen update does to her before doing anything big.
General Esdeath 1 votes"Hurr I don't understand what a late game champ is"
-OP
Marthian1 votesIt's only ~1 more AD late game.
That said, Vayne has a very good early game for being an amazing late game carry, and I doubt 3 less AD will give her a weaker early game. It's a start, but not much help.
