Why does RITO put you with worse teammates than usually in promos?
Why? Do they not want people to climb?
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Bless up Fam6 votesno they want people to stay stuck playing their game. higher likelyhood they'll buy skins if they stay playing bro. simple marketing concept.
Gregor Gysi3 votesYes, if they didn't do this everyone would be Diamond ASAP.. Wait.
You guys have to remember that Promos don't really matter overall. The thing that matters is your MMR (invisible elo). The division / promotion system is just a fancy overlay, if your MMR is Diamond then you will get to Diamond. Lost a promo? Whatever, you will get to your next promo in one win. Promo's do not matter, so don't care too much about them.
420 grams6 votesBecause you were probably on a win streak to get to promos, so they put you on the losing team to balance out your win streak.
S0kaX1 votesNah, I was one win one lose until I got the promos, I won one game (because it wasn't promo but counted after I won) then lost the other 2.
Quepha4 votes[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qcQj4XER,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-15T19:42:50.041+0000)
Because you were probably on a win streak to get to promos, so they put you on the losing team to balance out your win streak.
This also is not something that happens.
S0kaX2 votesYou really think that? Lol
Quepha2 votesYou really think that? Lol
According to the official material on matchmaking: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954-Matchmaking-Guide
There is absolutely nothing mentioning that the game tries to kill win/loss streaks. Players make that claim because they refuse to acknowledge the possibility that sometimes you just lose games.
StrengthAndHonor8 votesYes it happens. Riot Red confirmed it. The MMR tries to make everyone close to 50% win rate. It will stack teams against you to achieve it.
Gregor Gysi1 votesWe had this exact same topic the other day. It has NOT been confirmed by any Rioter and there is NO source proving what you say. If you really want to insist otherwise then prove it.
But it's true that the matchmaking system tries to make everyone close to 50% winratio - so if you win more games than you lose (winstreak) it will match you with better players on both teams.
It's also true that the higher your elo is, the higher the chance that you are the best player in your team. After all there are few players at high elo. But the matchmaking system will still have both teams have about the same average MMR. That means if you still deserve to climb then your winrate will still be above 50%.
Therefore, it's definetely false that the matchmaking will stack teams against you.
2 Weezy Baby4 votesYeah man.. it's all Riots fault you can't climb. This game isn't about individual and teamwork skills at all... Just roll a dice and see if Riot allows you to climb or not.
S0kaX1 votesIt's basically that. Tell me how do I carry an AD Thresh?
2 Weezy Baby1 votesIt's basically that. Tell me how do I carry an AD Thresh?
Farm... build Blade of Ruined King. Rfc into IE then build tank. Really off meta pick but still do-able.
S0kaX4 votesNo, how do I carry the AD Thresh, me being another person?
Oakleaf Ranger4 votesBy putting your hands together and praying
But if that fails the next best option is the fetal position
SeaGodUrronuos13 votesactually yea that's it exactly, they need a system that looks at your kda, farm, total dmg healing ext not just if you win or lose, for placement atleast, because if im singed with a 5.0 kda with 440 farm in 50 minutes every game, but I lose every game because of my team, I should still be a higher rank than a .50 kda 50 farm in 30 minutes ashe that gets in silver 4 because she won 3 games because she got carried those 3 games by her whole team.
StrengthAndHonor4 votesHold up though. 440 farm. That means you aren't grouping with your team and not teamfighting. You're the problem. You can't leave them 5v4 all game.
SeaGodUrronuos7 votesYou realize that wasn't the point of the post at all right, its an example, and yes you could participate in teamfights and get that amount of farm in that amount of time, ive seen it done ive done it before, so get over the whole "BUT THAT MEANS X" seriously not the point how about go back and read the post again before shit posting my comment
StrengthAndHonor6 votesYou realize that wasn't the point of the post at all right, its an example, and yes you could participate in teamfights and get that amount of farm in that amount of time, ive seen it done ive done it before, so get over the whole "BUT THAT MEANS X" seriously not the point how about go back and read the post again before shit posting my comment
SeaGodUrronuos......
You are Bronze 4.
If you have 440 farm, I'm pretty damn sure you are not grouped with your team and you are leaving them 5v4.
And by the way, split pushing does not work in Bronze.
SeaGodUrronuos3 votesyou realize how stupid you sound right now right, "split pushing doesn't work in bronze" yea it does because no one know how to prevent it and it wins games more often in bronze than anywhere, and I never said anything about split pushing. and the fact that you have to point out my rank just means you have to be so self conscious, you aren't on topic in the first place, and you can easily complete a teamfight within 6 seconds or maybe 20 if its super long so that would mean you lost maybe 6 or so cs, not to mention is fking singed, singed can farm by splitting up the enemy waves which prevents pushing, and you cant tell me "If you have 440 farm, I'm pretty damn sure you are not grouped with your team and you are leaving them 5v4. " when I have done teamfights the whole game and never miss one and have that farm and lose, ya know for someone whos bronze two you chouldnt be pointing out things like this when you have no clue what you are talking about, when you don't even play singed correctly, so you have no clue about that champion, so stay on topic and actually read what my post is about, not just being an ignorant idiot,
xWaters3 votesyou realize how stupid you sound right now right, "split pushing doesn't work in bronze" yea it does because no one know how to prevent it and it wins games more often in bronze than anywhere, and I never said anything about split pushing. and the fact that you have to point out my rank just means you have to be so self conscious, you aren't on topic in the first place, and you can easily complete a teamfight within 6 seconds or maybe 20 if its super long so that would mean you lost maybe 6 or so cs, not to mention is fking singed, singed can farm by splitting up the enemy waves which prevents pushing, and you cant tell me "If you have 440 farm, I'm pretty damn sure you are not grouped with your team and you are leaving them 5v4. " when I have done teamfights the whole game and never miss one and have that farm and lose, ya know for someone whos bronze two you chouldnt be pointing out things like this when you have no clue what you are talking about, when you don't even play singed correctly, so you have no clue about that champion, so stay on topic and actually read what my post is about, not just being an ignorant idiot,
Splitting fails most of the time because your team doesnt do anything while they send their whole team to get you.
Skias4 votesyou realize how stupid you sound right now right, "split pushing doesn't work in bronze" yea it does because no one know how to prevent it and it wins games more often in bronze than anywhere, and I never said anything about split pushing. and the fact that you have to point out my rank just means you have to be so self conscious, you aren't on topic in the first place, and you can easily complete a teamfight within 6 seconds or maybe 20 if its super long so that would mean you lost maybe 6 or so cs, not to mention is fking singed, singed can farm by splitting up the enemy waves which prevents pushing, and you cant tell me "If you have 440 farm, I'm pretty damn sure you are not grouped with your team and you are leaving them 5v4. " when I have done teamfights the whole game and never miss one and have that farm and lose, ya know for someone whos bronze two you chouldnt be pointing out things like this when you have no clue what you are talking about, when you don't even play singed correctly, so you have no clue about that champion, so stay on topic and actually read what my post is about, not just being an ignorant idiot,
If you've split long enough to reach 440 cs, its not working bro.
476 CE2 votesTips:
You die a lot Your builds are wrong (a lot of the time) You don't ward enough You have the wrong summoners (at times) your farm is low (a lot of the time)
If you truly belonged higher than Bronze, you'd certainly have higher than a 46% win rate after almost 70 games.
Honest and polite advice: Look at your own mistakes through replays and compare them to people in high elo, you will learn a lot. If something "works", but you aren't climbing, it's probably not working.
SeaGodUrronuos2 votesThu the builds that are "wrong" are generally games when I just say "fuck it" when I know we lost, and a 46 % win rate is because of monkeys on my own team, there isn't any point in trying to climb when I can't even focus on working on myself rather than worrying about top that is 0/19 at 30 minutes and mid that's 4/7 so do me a favor and get back on topic, instead of worrying about being a complete troll
476 CE1 votesRight, I'm sure that's it. Every ELO has trolls and people that fuck off. If you deserve to leave Bronze, you will. Based off your attitude alone it's no wonder you're stuck. If you sincerely wanted to climb, and deserved to be higher, you would carry the majority of your games. If you get AFKS and people feeding, so does the enemy team. I highly doubt Riot is targeting just you because they want you to stay in Bronze. Instead of shit talking people who are attempting to give you sound advice, maybe you should try it.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesWhy tf should I take advice from you, I can't carry a 1v9 game i tryed to so many times, even if I did end up making it 25/3 as fizz with 150 's they always end up throwing the game anyway even if we are winning because they want to go in 1v5 so yea it is my teamates, and my attitude is toward you not the game numb skull, get it right, during the game I'm generally pretty good, but it's people like you that puss me off telling me "you're stuck because you're attitude is bad" tell that to tyler1, so do me a favor stay on topic and get out of my face with that bs
476 CE2 votesIf you are 25/3 as Fizz, and aren't carrying, then you need to focus on taking objectives. Someone that fed CAN easily carry a game. Tyler1 is toxic, but he has a lot more game knowledge and mechanical skill. He is challenger, you are not. I don't see your logic? I'm just going to assume you are trolling and move on. Anywho, hopefully in a season or two you mange to climb out; good luck Summoner!
SeaGodUrronuos2 votesYou literally just proves my point, I win, you're an idiot and you just proved it, thanks bud
Supreme Senpai691 votesLOL the fucking salt is real. That was one of the most polite and respectful comments I've seen on this board.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesAlso do me a favor and go comment somewhere else if you're just going to shit post even when that isn't what I'm talking about in the first place numb skull, so either stay on topic or just stfu, honestly its that simple.
476 CE1 votesThis is on topic. You are saying that the system is against you, and I am saying that the accountability is on you to carry your own games. This is pretty simple to understand. Personal accountability goes a long way.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesNo its not on topic because I'm talking about a game mechanic not my own personal play numb skull, get it through your egotistical head would you.
476 CE1 votes[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Okay bud.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesLol what no reply
Golden Tager X2 votesSinged grouping, k
Xonra1 votesSomeone doesn't know who Singed is
Skorch1 votesOh trust me it DEFINETLY isnt based on just w/l in placements its WAY more.
BTW I dont think you should insult that ashe by saying she was always carried when there is every possibility the ONE time you saw her she had really bad game.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesYou realize it was just an example right, get it through your head
Skorch1 votesThere is no way to tell examples from experiences anymore.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesYea in dine with you people on here bye
Gregor Gysi2 votes"but i lose every game because of my team" - no you don't. The reason why the system is alright as it is is very simple. If you have more impact than your opponents or more specifically your respective counterpart then your winrate will be >50% and you will climb. Given enough games you will get to the rank you deserve, period. There really is nothing more to discuss about this.
ZURELL1 votescarrying and trying to coordinate with your team is virtually impossible in bronze unless you get, by some blessing from god, a player who is calm cool and collected even in the face of being behind, knows how to farm under tower. knows how to lane manage, knows positioning, doesnt get tunnel vision, wards for their top lane, wards in general, understand mu's, DOESNT PUSH WHLE BEING BEHIND IN KDA (that is the most annoying thing. its just a fucking mess i hate being in bronze
Quepha3 votesThey don't. It's that simple.
Gregor Gysi2 votesARE YOU IMPLYING THAT IT'S MY FAULT FOR BEING BRONZE?!
SlaktarTasken2 votesBecause if u want to belong to a certain rank, presumably above whatever rank you have, playing with and beating people in said rank is not enough, you must prove yourself by consistently carrying considerably lower elo players against them, because logic.
00 54 77 6f2 votesgit gud :^)
Xonra2 votes"Do they not want people to climb?"
Nope. Because their theory is, the longer you are TRYING to climb, the more you have to play, and the more you play the more likely you are to spend money. Be that true or not, that is the fact.
So, no, they don't want people to climb. At least not with anything more than like a 51% winrate at best. That isn't to say you can't, just that if it were up to them, they would be fine with most people never climbing.
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