Why does Riot make all bruisers weak?

Saint Tyrone ·Aug 21, 2014·3 votes·820 views

I remember back in S2 (bruiser meta) bruisers we're the ones that kept ADC's and Mages checked in place. Now all briusers have been purposely left in a weak state while ADC's dominate. (Luc and trist)

8 Comments

ShrikesnestAug 21, 20143 votes

Because I can at least have a shot at killing Lucian and Tristana? The problem with the meta where bruisers were dominant is the way in which bruisers achieved their dominance. Having good enough base damage that you can build almost full tank and still deal comparable damage to someone who had to spend all of their itemization on damage is just bad design.

EapenatorAug 21, 20142 votes

It also devalues tanks.

Why play a tank jungler when I can just play a fighter jungler, bully you so that you don't get any gold and kill you easily. Then, after one damage item, I can go full tank and out tank you for the rest of the game because you don't have any gold to keep up.Of course you can out tank me when you have items, but after the whole early game of being slaughtered, you will never reach that point.

bbbbatesAug 21, 20142 votes

Im with this guy on this one, the whole "better nerf irellia" thing came out of her being essentially a ball of stats. The idea that she and other bruisers could run around and deal a ton of damage and never be killed was not a good thing to have around.

With the recent changes, bruisers still have a shot at killing ADCs because of lifesteal nerfs. This means that every fight between a bruiser and ranged mage/adc is dynamic. The bruiser has the durability to try and find a way in close to the other champ and the other champ has to play to prevent that. Makes play more fun, and more interesting to watch.

Binxy PrimeAug 21, 20142 votes

back in s2 i remember adcs killing bruisers in like 3 seconds.

This is the closest the meta has been to s2 in a long time people are just better at the game now.

WorgslargAug 21, 20141 votes

Once a bruiser is that strong, they are too strong and a bruiser with first blood in toplane means gg in most cases.

AquaponeyyAug 21, 20141 votes

because op champion like Yasuo can fuck them!! trololol !!!

MrSc0ttyAug 22, 20141 votes

Because "builds pure tank, out damages the ADC" is busted design?

Also lol dat tunnel vision. Vi Wukong Irelia Tryndamere Pantheon are all beast right now. Tristiana is just a busted piece of shit, in lane and at every stage of the game.

deadlychuckAug 22, 20141 votes

item 3074 item 3143 item 3075 the reason bruisers aren't weaker than ADCs.

and explain to me how an ADC doesn't die to LeeSin Riven MonkeyKing

you can't kite them and they can blow you up in about 2 seconds flat with just item 3074 and item 3209

Bruisers are optimized far better than mages or marksmen. ADC rely on crit chance to hope to be effective, which needs to be removed for increased power directly on the kits because they are 5 times more item dependent than their bruiser counterparts. Mages fall into two categories champions who will not die to assassins and useless because assassins are freaking everywhere, and so many are AD now. Mages have always been hindered by the fact that in order to be relevant late game almost every single one of their items needs to have some amount of AP on it. So what does that leave mages to build against AD assassins, bruisers, and marksmen? item 3157 and item 3025 yep