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Riven is just way to strong....

llIIxxIIll··13 votes·1,652 views

Dear Riotmember who created Riven.... Please quit your job you fuckin asshole....

This fuckin hero is just beyong being overpowered... She is slow immun thanks to her 4 flashes..... 3x 260 range and 1x325. and ofc she is tanky as fuck becaus of her 6s (E) and it snot like she is missing ANYTHING !!!! even if you are ranged....she will just shit on you everytime you try to last hit. and thanks to the shield buff she got a while ago. shes even stronger in early....but god thanks she falls of mid and late......yeah......no she does not. she just scales way to well into late .....her fucki shield shield her for 500-600 late and you cant even peel her correctly because she is just slowimmune.

so dear Riot.....you stupid motherfuckin assholes... why dont you just remove the fuckin 100%bonus ad on her shield ? mhm ? like j4 shield.....hmm ? oh i know because you are busy fixing your other overpowered heroes,....like azir, ekko and fizz.

the first guy who says (riven has no sustain) should commit suicide in reallife asap.....because if you dont know how MUCH sustain he has just with a fuckin vamp scepter....well,.... her passiv scales even with that. cause the passiv dmg is NOT A ON HIT EFFECT !!!!!! the passiv dmg actually leeched life back !!!!

25 Comments

KilljoyX5 votes

That moment when this thread is posted after a J4 dumpstered Riven in pro play.

NemeBro5 votes

What a whiny bitch.

O Fallen Scholar4 votes

She is strong against noobs. Fact.

Mr Broken Wings4 votes

Here, Ill give you stats that prove that riven actually is in a bad spot :

http://i.gyazo.com/568f78bff72a7621338e37195cee3993.png

Irelias winrate on amount of games played. We can see that Irelias main playerbase has around 15-50 games with her, and she hits her average winrate with that.

She hits 52% winrate with 15-50 games on her.

Now we compare this with riven:

http://i.gyazo.com/5e71dab794029fbf5f7dd6234d63ac58.png

Rivens main playerbase has 125+ games ( the exact stat is btw 166 games per average riven main)

Riven has a 48% winrate with 15 games played, a riven with 50 games on her will only have 51%. You need to fucking play 125+ games to get to the same winrate as Irelia.

Riven has the same winrate as Irelia while the Irelia playerbase has 60 games with her on average and rivens average playerbase has 166. Thats not balanced, she would need huge buffs actually, because at the moment her winrate is only high because riven players waste 3 x more time on learning and making this champion perfect to bring her to an EQUAL winrate, her winrate should be higher but it isnt. Riven is overnerfed, simple as that. If the average riven playerbase would have 60 games with her her winrate would be godawful, and thats a fact. Now show me your statistics that prove that riven wins every lane and is a brainafk faceroll champion, protipp: you cant because only salty silver guys cry about her.

Have a nice day.

ScreamPaste3 votes

Taking more work to master does not make Riven weaker, champions should be balanced around the highest level of play, not around how much work it takes to get there.

Riven does take more work than most but is fairly rewarding in solo queue for that effort. Less so in professional play, sadly, but she's in a state where she can occasionally be picked with the right team comp, and I'm fine with that.

Mr Broken Wings1 votes

{quoted}

Taking more work to master does not make Riven weaker, champions should be balanced around the highest level of play, not around how much work it takes to get there.

Riven does take more work than most but is fairly rewarding in solo queue for that effort. Less so in professional play, sadly, but she's in a state where she can occasionally be picked with the right team comp, and I'm fine with that.

Even if you master her she is fucking shitty, sadly. High elo players actually call her trash a long time already. Several Riven mains stopped playing her because of the latest nerfs, in "the professional" play riven is considered a troll pick, thats a fact.

ShinTwist2 votes

Even if you master her she is fucking shitty, sadly. High elo players actually call her trash a long time already. Several Riven mains stopped playing her because of the latest nerfs, in "the professional" play riven is considered a troll pick, >thats a fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6fWIeIEjlE&channel=Kazawuna

Seemed to work this time.

If you master Riven her win-rate in solo-queue is inarguably good, the hard part is getting there. It takes a lot of different aspects of game knowledge to play her well, but this is the level we should balance around, around the best. Professional players have said she's garbage, that's true, and some players have quit her, but many have not and Riven's playerbase continues to skew towards having far more players playing her at the top of her skill curve than are still learning her.

Riven isn't "fucking shitty", she's just not one of the best. She isn't pick/ban material, she's a strong niche pick and a decent mid-game carry in solo-queue.

Your data is good, but the way you interpret it is a bit faulty, it puts too much emphasis on the effort required to be good with Riven than how a good Riven fares relatively to other good players, which is to say a good Riven will do fairly well.

Mr Broken Wings1 votes

{quoted}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6fWIeIEjlE&channel=Kazawuna

Seemed to work this time.

If you master Riven her win-rate in solo-queue is inarguably good, the hard part is getting there. It takes a lot of different aspects of game knowledge to play her well, but this is the level we should balance around, around the best. Professional players have said she's garbage, that's true, and some players have quit her, but many have not and Riven's playerbase continues to skew towards having far more players playing her at the top of her skill curve than are still learning her.

Riven isn't "fucking shitty", she's just not one of the best. She isn't pick/ban material, she's a strong niche pick and a decent mid-game carry in solo-queue.

Your data is good, but the way you interpret it is a bit faulty, it puts too much emphasis on the effort required to be good with Riven than how a good Riven fares relatively to other good players, which is to say a good Riven will do fairly well.

I saw that match, rumble didnt lane for 20 minutes because he was dumb, then got camped and riven went 0-0-2 out of laning, nothing to see here actually, woa she won a game, that doesnt mean she was any impactful. She got camped to hell and still didnt do anything all game long, this game proves pretty much that she has no impact whatsoever. He could have played ad lux, with permanent help from tf and the jungler, that doesnt prove that she is viable.

5 Stacks GG3 votes

if you seriously think riven is shitty, you haven't played Darius yet LOL

riven is actually broken op and always banned in high elo

Fatalitý2 votes

No, she is not always banned in high elo and she is not "broken" Lol.

5 Stacks GG1 votes

sure, a silver knows what is banned in master elo Kappa

Fatalitý3 votes

Your master and you think riven is op broken? Lolwut

5 Stacks GG1 votes

every good player think she is, only ignorant and riven player think she is fine

Fatalitý1 votes

I doubt every single player in challenger and master thinks shes OP, how can you not know how to beat a riven in master?

NemeBro3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Broken Wings,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qXAYRzz4,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-07-26T20:53:19.409+0000) You need to fucking play 125+ games to get to the same winrate as Irelia.

Irelia's win rate: 53.41% Riven's win rate with 125+ games: 56.78%

Those numbers are the same!

By the way, at 125+ games for players of both champs, Riven has the higher win rate.

Live2LetDie3 votes

My garen laughs at your pathetic riven attempt

Lugg1 votes

Yet Garen NEVER sees pro play.

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

0/9 lol

ScreamPaste3 votes

"I lost to a ____, so people I've never met, who make a job through game design, should kill themselves. The problem is obviously not with my poor play, but with the designers and other players. I am in no way at fault for losing, I am perfect." -OP

How about you learn to play the free game, or find another one to play?

Fatalitý2 votes

Yet another post how Riven is "OP" LMFAO. Riven most certainly is NOT Overpowered. She's easy to beat and counter pick. Any tank beats her. People just whine about her because they will pick an all damage no tank person to go top with. (Xin, Fiora, Yi, Gangplank, Jayce, Kayle and ect..) and get destroyed. Seriously play Malphite or Shen or any tank and you will destroy her. I don't get why so many people complain about her. This was just like Katarina a couple months ago, way to many people complain and they nerfed her hard. Every champ is beatable, learn how to beat them instead of crying for nerfs.

Lyless2 votes

When playing against Riven, pick your spots. She isn't that hard!

Poorly Dressed1 votes

i know it's not everything but Riven just got roflstomped deluxe by J4 in NA LCS. Granted J4 got a lot of jungle attention but still.

ponkzy1 votes

so, camp riven and win game? too bad nobody knows how to play jungle in solo q

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

ekko overpowered?

kappa

Lugg1 votes

Don't forget the 58% Riven win rate on challenger over the last month.

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