she relies way TOO much on her W, i have never seen an ability that have so much scaling all in 1 , damages of her max hp, and damages for enemies max hp, and scale of her AP, it's just too much and that's what keeping her in unbearable spot
what if they took some of that power in her W and put it on her E? with aswell tuning down some of the numbers here and there to make it "Clean"
terkmc4 votes
His shield scale off his max hp, damage scale off ap and enemy max hp
Vistha Kai1 votesWhen was the last time Sion had any AP? Right, when his team did Baron.
terkmc3 votesWhats your point? Both Sejuani and Sion have to buy AP to use their AP ratio. The point of this post is that Sej W have too much scailing on it, and the author said "i have never seen an ability that have so much scaling all in 1". I gave an example of another one that have just as much scailing
Vistha Kai1 votesBecause Sion is a tank that will get one AD item at best and exactly 0 items that benefit his AP scalings.
While Sejuani will most likely get Haunting Guise as her first item, then proceed to kill everybody with one spell.
terkmc4 votesSion is a tank and Sejuani is not? A Sejuani that wants to utilize her AP scailing for damage is going to have to sacrifice her tankiness, and that's perfectly fine, that's game design and balance, just as a Sion that wants to use his (actually kinda high if he gets full channel) AD ratio is going to have to sacrifice his tankiness. Might as well complain about Xin Zhao ult. 100% AD scailing, % current health and free armor and mr Or Poppy Q That scale with AD, AP, % max health Or Nidalee Q That scale with AD, AP and also execute Or Nasus Ult that scale with AP, does % hp, gives health and AD
ImFlutterShy2 votesSejuani's Q used to have % health damage but they removed it and gave it to her W because AP sejuani was too op. I think they also put some of her E damage into her W too.
jDVL20eCYs2 votesi agree her w should have better ap ratio and have a movepseed boots aka shyvana w. why not also give a armor/mr ratio was leona w. since hit dose damage on hit its should also do damage in circle like leonas w when the duration ends and to like 30/50/70/90/110(40%ap, 10%bonoushp) truedamge
think she is a little weak ever chinderhulk nerfs. so she needs a buff
Clouded Magi1 votesI agree. Having 1 point in e until I'm forced to max it doesn't feel right, that's the main slow on her kit and she should be maxing it first, or at least second. I also agree that W is overloaded, but the main reason her ban rate more than tripled is because of her ult, its low cd and long duration makes it probably the best teamfighting ult in the game. You don't even have to land it on a carry, you hit a tank and suddenly the whole backline got stuned. If they upped the cd on her ult A LOT, and like you said moved power from W to E I think she would be healthier.
Lucentile1 votesA lot of characters have an ability that is the key thing that they should level. Taric's stun is a one-point wonder, too, for example. Other characters have abilities that are clearly optimal to max out first.
Lugg1 votesSej definitely needs the nerf bat. Only a complete idiot would argue that. She is extremely tanky and does ridiculous damage. Especially considering how much CC she has in her kil. Nautilus is very strong right now and his damage is nowhere near Sej. If a champion has a ban rate that high, there is a very good reason why.
Khell DarkWolf1 votesHer scalings are what define her.
If anything, her W base numbers (maybe even Ult) could be reduced so that early game you don't get too much from it.
Martyrofsand1 votesWell if you want to talk about an overloaded abilities you have to talk about Cassio's E which will give her mana regen, healing, most of her damage and amp the damage of her poisons.
That said I don't really feel her W is overloaded considering it's suppose to be her primary source of damage and she is suppose to be a source of constant AoE damage in team fights in addition to her CC. Just feels more like an appropriate ability that anything.
