Thank you so much for gutting Irelia into the ground :^)

Aria·Jun 27, 2018·2 votes·935 views

She needed a little bit of a nerf, yes. But she's only so rampant midlane because of OTHER PROBLEMS MIDLANE HAS, not because her kit is necessarily overtuned like a CERTAIN FEW OTHER MIDLANERS.

The nerf to her passive is absolutely killing Irelia. Changing her scaling from TOTAL AD to BONUS AD? On a champion that HAS to build tanky because her kit requires her to dive?!

The only compensation she gets is a Dagger's worth of attack speed?! The only situation in which that would ever be useful is in a completely isolated 1v1 at lower levels.

Yes she was strong, yes perhaps a bit too much, but this is killing her. Good going Riot, you gutted a champion you just released that so many people, myself included, bought skins for.

I'm pissed. She's literally going to be so, so much worse now. Fiora and Riven could already kick your ass toplane, now you just don't stand a chance. Good job Riot. No, really. Good job Riot. :^) You completely gutted her. Fuck the balance team. Seriously.

5 Comments

NhifuJun 27, 20181 votes

Easiest stun to land in the game. Absolutely forgiving mana costs. Shield? lol.

AriaJun 27, 20181 votes

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Easiest stun to land in the game. Absolutely forgiving mana costs. Shield? lol.

This is irrelevant. Her entire playstyle took a fucking kick in the balls. You can still dodge her stun, you literally see it coming once she puts down the first blade and can then go one direction and turn around immediately. She misses it 100% of the time. Forgiving mana costs?? Zed has none?????? Hello? Riven has none????

Watch LS' video on the topic. He's a caster and he breaks down actual competitive play. Even in his opinion, Irelia is absolutely destroyed by this.

AriaJun 27, 20181 votes

If you mean to call Irelia easy, that's irrelevant- She IS easy. But this game has easy champions. They don't deserve to be gutted and unplayable compared to everything else because their kit has reliability and advantages, it also had disadvantages.

BLIGHTBRINGERJun 27, 20181 votes

So it's not okay for Irelia to be nerfed but it's okay for almost the entire marksman class to be nerfed into the ground to the point where they are unplayable and no one picks them?

While I think the crit nerfs were needed, I don't see why they needed stat nerfs on top of all that making them even more open to one shots at early stages of the game.

As for Irelia again, as Imaqtpie said...

"i finally understand marksman, im useless and should only play champions that scale with 0 items and levels like brand and lulu or play champs that are 100% broken like vlad or irelia"

Irelia legit needs either a Sheen or a finished Trinity Force and she can 100 to 0 you like an Assassin but safer and better because she is guaranteed to land her main damage (Q) after she lands R and E.

AriaJun 27, 20182 votes

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So it's not okay for Irelia to be nerfed but it's okay for almost the entire marksman class to be nerfed into the ground to the point where they are unplayable and no one picks them?

While I think the crit nerfs were needed, I don't see why they needed stat nerfs on top of all that making them even more open to one shots at early stages of the game.

As for Irelia again, as Imaqtpie said...

"i finally understand marksman, im useless and should only play champions that scale with 0 items and levels like brand and lulu or play champs that are 100% broken like vlad or irelia"

Irelia legit needs either a Sheen or a finished Trinity Force and she can 100 to 0 you like an Assassin but safer and better because she is guaranteed to land her main damage (Q) after she lands R and E.

Don't derail. I said nothing about marksmen. This still majorly hurts Irelia in every way and if you can't realize that and simply instead call things broken, you're a very bad player.

Vlad isn't broken because he's Vlad. Vlad is broken because of the state of botlane, and how his kit interacts with it. He is not inherently broken. He is simply loving this meta. The same thing was happening with Irelia mid.

Understand that champion strengths are determined by what they're playing against as well.