Y'know what really gets my goat?

Aria·6/21/2018, 4:02:39 PM·6 votes·1,551 views

La Chupacabra.

But also, fucking point and click CC. Remove it from the game. Outright remove it. Please. Malzahar's ult can be a suppress, but make it a skillshot equivalent to Warwick's ult. He has to land it now, why does Malzahar get to say "fuck you" to one dude in a teamfight and 100% guarantee a kill? Garbage game mechanics right there.

Get Maokai out of my face. Make him more skillful to play.

Ryze especially. Low cooldown point-and-click root? Bro the fuck are you smoking?

It has counterplay, you have ways of not getting fucked by it, yes. I'm not saying it's OP bullshit, I'm saying it's unfun, unskilled bullshit. Nothing about a Malzahar's skill level is expressed when he just ults and fucks you, yet to get the same effect off with WW you at least need to land your long ass leap and if you don't? You get PUNISHED for it.

Point and click CC is not risk versus reward, it's all the reward and none of the risk. WW will likely die if he misses his ult and dives into 5 people, he fucked up his engage and is getting punished for it.

The argument "but mobility creep!" can be made but this is still outplayed by skillshot CC. Ahri's Charm catches out people dashing and can be used so effectively to shut down mobility if you just AIM IT RIGHT AND PREDICT, WHICH IS A SKILL-EXPRESSIVE WAY OF COUNTERING YOUR OPPONENT'S PLAYS. Seriously. It's the most unfun thing in the entire game for me and it needs to be fucking looked at.

Point and click abilities are fine, but CC? JFC get it out of the game pls.

21 Comments

Amoc6/21/2018, 5:07:00 PM4 votes

Point and click CC is necessary, otherwise we'd have champs like Zed Fizz MasterYi Yasuo being even more obnoxious to play against than they already are.

Point and click abilities are fine, but not CC? That's hilarious.

Think before you make suggestions like that.

Teslyn6/21/2018, 4:45:43 PM3 votes

The way you talk .. you sound like a person that plays assassins.. and doesnt carry a pink ward with you.

HalcyonDweller6/21/2018, 5:25:39 PM2 votes

If you want to delete point and click CC then I get to delete champions whos only counter is point and click cc. Such as master Yi or Zed.

Aptest6/21/2018, 4:44:28 PM2 votes

please suggest a way of making Zed's R fail to function. Then we talk

I Support Solar6/21/2018, 9:08:33 PM2 votes
  1. This would make dash-n'-kill spam even more oppressive. Reacting to another player is a lot harder than being the player doing the dashing. You don't need to make the stun a skillshot on top of that. Reflexes are already being tested.

  2. Bad players are allowed to play the game and have fun too. Annie is a perfectly good champion that a bronze player can pick up easily and have fun with. A lot of people just aren't coordinated enough to play the "mad skillz" champions.

  3. Also, most of the point and click champs have a lot less range or a lot less options anyway. They aren't usually played in higher level games, except as niche.

Jinzo Torrance6/21/2018, 4:38:06 PM2 votes

Someone is getting outplayed

Karunamon6/21/2018, 9:28:04 PM1 votes

You know what really gets my goat?

Soraka

five oh tree 6/21/2018, 4:54:27 PM1 votes

Ranged point-click hard cc is pretty aids, yes. I don't really have a problem with something such as, say, Skarner ult, because he has to be right next to you so it wouldn't matter anyway.

KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ6/21/2018, 6:27:08 PM1 votes

I would take a 1 second CD root/stun over an assassin leaping half the screen to one shot me with not risk any day of the week(looks at lb,zed,fizz,yas,wu and others). KAT MAIN BTW and i still fucking hate the assassin meta.

Colton1476/21/2018, 6:32:07 PM1 votes

Annie item 3070

Nyarlathοtep6/21/2018, 5:14:38 PM

He has to land it now, why does Malzahar get to say "fuck you" to one dude in a teamfight and 100% guarantee a kill?

I have multiple questions. First, assuming you arent squishy, why the fuck do you mind it? Now assuming you are squishy, why the fuck you are in range? Second, why the fuck you dont have qss, assuming you can buy it. Third, how the fuck its a 100% kill? Like where you alone and you ended up getting ganged up? Because thats your fault not riot's for making his ulti point and click.

Ryze especially. Low cooldown point-and-click root? Bro the fuck are you smoking?

Idk if you have heard it but he is getting a mini rework and they want to change his snare. Or rather change the circumstances at which it snares.

I'm not saying it's OP bullshit, I'm saying it's unfun, unskilled bullshit/The argument "but mobility creep!" can be made but this is still outplayed by skillshot CC. Ahri's Charm catches out people dashing and can be used so effectively to shut down mobility if you just AIM IT RIGHT AND PREDICT

I prefer the word, necessary evil. And before you start spouting nonsense, point and click cc needs to exist otherwise hypermobile champs would be a nightmare to face. And dont you fucking dare to say "BUT I HAVE CHARMED HYPER MOBILE CHAMPS HERP DERP ITS EASY" because its not. Its easily one of the worst feelings of being forced to use your spells only to farm because the enemy has all the mobility to outright dodge your skillshots. Like tell me right here right now, how do you charm a vayne when her q is up (lets say she is far away around 900 range)? You aim at her current location? She has enough time to simply q sideways to evade it. You aim her possible future location? She wont take any actions then. You will also look like an idiot.

Removing point and click cc would mean that every hypermobile champ (riven,yi,katarina,fizz,akali,irelia, kalista, yasuo,vayne) would get a significant buff and thats a no-no.

WHICH IS A SKILL-EXPRESSIVE WAY OF COUNTERING YOUR OPPONENT'S PLAYS.

For the enemy. The enemy can react in accordance to your skillshot. He can (provided he has the distance to process the situation) sidestep the skillshot. You can't alter its direction when it travels.

Overall solid downvote for me. Just another low rank player being unable to accept little but important facts.