Why do I lose every single game in silver???

FluffyBunnies··1 votes·1,975 views

Look at my match history, other than the one troll game (you should be able to figure that one out) and tell me why i have to lose them all??? No matter how well I play I lose every single game. I have like 3 wins in the last 18 losses. Every game i think to myself, "this game might be different? Maybe I wont be against a team of fed yasuo's or something like that" Every game is exactly the same though...

Edit: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=critdozer

26 Comments

Eedat3 votes

Not offering any advice to an intentional feeder

Sorry, not sorry.

FluffyBunnies1 votes

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Not offering any advice to an intentional feeder

Sorry, not sorry.

It only took me 9 minutes to find a game you intentionally fed. Sorry for spending 9 minutes of my life making you look like an idiot.... Wait not sorry

Eedat3 votes

I've never fed intentionally a single game since I started in season 3. Enjoy the bronze 3 MMR you deserve as a feeder

Orinne2 votes

You die at least 5 times every game, apparently feed intentionally here and there, and your MMR is like 120 below average for your division.

Is it really a surprise that you're losing a majority of your games?

FluffyBunnies1 votes

it is very surprising yeah. Sure i intentionally fed like 8 games a long time ago in bronze 5. I was punished and don't do it anymore. MMR is not a single players score. You could play 100 games and get 90 teams of people who shouldnt be in your elo and have your mmr get rekt.

My best games are played with people on my team who are so bad that with how fed I get its still not enough to deal with 1-2 other fed lanes and a jg on occassion.

Orinne1 votes

If you belong in your division, you're generally going to get a 50% win-rate, because the odds that these 'players who shouldn't be in your elo' end up on your team or the enemy's team is roughly even.

You're at 47% win-rate after 600 games. Thinking that this is all because of your terribad teammates, and nothing to do with the fact that you were the one constant variable in those 600 games, is delusional.

FluffyBunnies1 votes

my win rate is lower because of my past. Not because of my present. Thats like saying there is no changing...

I dont recall saying I was a gold player, but im not a bronze player, and according to everyone ive played with that is way above my current elo feels the same way that i belong in higher silver and am stuck with shit players who tilt me.

Dracocrash2 votes

you want actual advice? you have 181 cs as a mid laner in a 50 minute game. lol.

Crowlëy1 votes

Because you are a B-5 player?

FluffyBunnies2 votes

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Because you are a B-5 player?

What about me makes me a bronze 5 player then? I left bronze and am now in silver, but i get worse teamates in silver than i did in bronze. Getting out of bronze 5 was easier than getting out of silver 5

Revali1 votes

silver 5 is the melting pot essentially, bronze players just hitting silver, new players to ranked,

FluffyBunnies1 votes

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silver 5 is the melting pot essentially, bronze players just hitting silver, new players to ranked,

it feels that way.

Leo10241 votes

I feel you, I always win lane but the others feed and then roam causing us to lose the game, try to not play ranked on the weekends, it's when the casuals come to play ranked so you'll get paired with better more serious people on weekdays, try finding a party to play ranked with, a lot of bronze players are bronze for a reason, players like you and I are often held back by teammates

FluffyBunnies2 votes

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I feel you, I always win lane but the others feed and then roam causing us to lose the game, try to not play ranked on the weekends, it's when the casuals come to play ranked so you'll get paired with better more serious people on weekdays, try finding a party to play ranked with, a lot of bronze players are bronze for a reason, players like you and I are often held back by teammates

Thanks for the encouraging words. I honestly was just hoping i'd get the good teamates at some point this weekened, but with how many losses i have it clearly just didn't happen.

I do feel very held back, im not an AMAZING player by any means, but all my friends at work and online friends whom are gold + (highest being master) are always telling me they're confident i belong in silver 1- gold 5 and i think it just pisses me off so much when i cant even move toward either of those ranks because of teamates holding me back like you said. I guess ill not play ranked anymore on the weekends like you mentioned.

Leo10241 votes

Yeah I'm sure anyone who's just held back in bronze belongs in high silver, I'm gonna try to climb as well, i usually go 3 wins and 2 losses on weekdays but this weekend I lost over 50 lp due to feeding teammates, extremely frustrating but I suggest only using weekend for normals and practice

WitchQueen Annie1 votes
  1. Play a very very small pool of champions you know and have practiced inside out (I'd say max 5, and even then its too many). i recommend AOE mages that scale well into the late game (ex Vladimir, Lux, Ahri) or tanky early gank junglers (ex Rammus, Amumu, Sejuani). In general, not always, champs that rely on a strong early game are harder to carry with because people in Silver rarely close out a game before everyone is at least 16-18.

  2. ALWAYS Ping and type "commands", pretend you are a red alert 2 commander. Ping so your team doesn't over-extend/over-stay, Ping so your team doesn't start retarded drags, ping to get your team to focus fire towers etc... I've noticed that in games where I consciously Ping I win a lot more than when I don't.

  3. At champ select, try to eye-ball the team picks and see if you've got a problematic team comp and/or problematic picks (ex in my opinion, picking Ezreal and/or Bard in Silver strongly correlates with losing). If you don't like it... try to start an argument so that someone on your team will dodge and save you a loss. There is NO POINT in playing a game where your team looks like this for example (Ezreal, Bard, Fiddlesticks, Zed, Teemo).

  4. Towers > Dragons, Barons. This is a general rule of thumb.

  5. Almost always, tell your team NOT to start Elder Dragon. That thing almost always leads to a throw and if your team was ahead anyways, you don't need the risk.

Koala Frenzy1 votes

Ranked is about consistency. If you can carry games consistently vs bronze you'll climb out. If you then get to silver and everyone's destroying you, you'll fall back into your bronze comfort zone. I had a month in P5 where I was just bad. 25% win rate over 20 games. Took a step back and untilted. Played a smurf for a month in no pressure games. Came back to ranked fresh and climbed to P2.

I see you're also playing multiple roles. Your KDA is best on malphite (albeit with a garbage average cs), but you're bouncing between adc, mid, and top. Try to stick with something if matchmaking lets you and work on your CS. Your best is an average of 162 on trist when it should be closer to 190 on average below diamond.

FluffyBunnies1 votes

So in bronze i constantly destroyed people, and carried my way out to silver with Kassadin middle. Now I started in silver and I personally preform great some games, some games average, other games below average, but do my best to not be a total free farm for other team. That being said im just notice that im playing with bronze 4's etc on my team. So obviously yeah im the most skilled player on the team most games but not all, and i feel as if i get the 'worse' bronze players if that makes sense?

Calabok1 votes

do not worry, you will drop down to your home at B5 and PwN everyone.

FluffyBunnies2 votes

then that would imply my home isnt b5...?

Helios Ex1 votes

Because the enemy team destroyed your nexus each time?

I regret nothing

LordGeovanni1 votes

Silver is worse than bronze and it seems that theones who sit there just reach there by luck quitting games they dont think they can win and some how staying in sliver instead of learning to come back from loseing games. I dont have good luck i have to work for every one of my wins and even with a positive win ratio in every game mode except twisted treeline nd some weekend game modes i cant seem to climb

FluffyBunnies1 votes

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Silver is worse than bronze and it seems that theones who sit there just reach there by luck quitting games they dont think they can win and some how staying in sliver instead of learning to come back from loseing games. I dont have good luck i have to work for every one of my wins and even with a positive win ratio in every game mode except twisted treeline nd some weekend game modes i cant seem to climb

on the verge of intentionally feeding till i get banned

Swiftstrike41 votes

So I am a mid tier Gold player and I am at the moment currently playing my 3rd account through silver. My one smurf placed in silver and my main account this season I also climbed through silver. This account was silver 5 maybe 30 LP and it is already Silver II heading into silver I promos without too many games. I use the smurfs to play with friends or do practice games prior doing ranked on my main. That way I can just make sure I am mechanically CS well before going into a ranked game on my main.

I will say feeders occur and sometimes you have rotten luck, but KDA and feeders are not going to occur every game and the chances of you getting bad teammates is less likely to occur with each subsequent game (or rather your opponents are just likely to get them as well).

You need to focus less on KDA and more on CS and Towers.

One of Silver's biggest problems, besides the inability ability to play from behind and toxicity, is that they NEVER take objectives unless they are "free". Meaning they do not take objectives or focus the objective unless it is virtually uncontested (clean ace). They miss a lot of opportunities to take towers and sometimes no towers fall until 20 minutes in games.

They will just continue laning or back after getting a kill.

There is a heavy focus on kills and sometimes all they do is look at the kill count to figure out if they are winning or not.

You may have a habit of not attacking the tower to take it unless it is "free" and miss opportunities to attack and take a tower because you may be choosing to back instead. After you kill someone you should auto the tower or try to take in the mid game.

Looking at your stats you have pretty low CS averages on the all the champions you play frequently and it should be about 40-50 cs higher per game on your leading champs.

I will say if you are not significantly better than silver players (mid to upper Gold or higher) you will have a harder time climbing through silver.

If your actual skill is maybe around Gold V or maybe Gold IV then climbing through silver might be tough, because you will be incapable of carrying bad teammates every game.

A lot of players in silver also fail to exert map pressure. On my smurf earlier I had a game where I was split-pushing and the entire opposing team sent a five man rotation to me. Sometimes I escaped and sometimes I didn't, but by the fourth time of them doing this I specifically told my teammates if that happens do not come to help me just put pressure on the map and take a tower.

A typical silver player would simply say "they got caught" and leave it at that, but after I pointed out that my teammates were doing jungle camps while 5 people chased me around the map they began to focus on towers and even took baron while I got chased down and killed. It took me saying something though for them to change their play patterns.

You also need to say things nicely, which most players in silver don't do. They focus on the mistakes of players and instead of providing constructive advice actually agitate teammates with their comments.

Silver players also have a tendency to want to group and teamfight, but sometimes comps need to split-push, skirmish, or play for picks. Teamfighting might actually LOOSE you the game and a lot of silver players fail to understand that playing into a strong teamfight comp puts them at a huge disadvantage. They just think that teamfighting is the only way to win and its a matter of executing skills.

The reality is that teamfighting with an Braum Ezreal Tryndamere Annie Evelynn into a Amumu MonkeyKing Jhin Brand Bard is a terrible idea if the game is relatively even.

It is actually even worse to teamfight when you are ahead and you find that your team is losing the teamfights.

You should really consider comps when going into games, always try to exert map pressure, look for towers, focus on CS, and be relatively polite to teammates if you find that your team is losing teamfights or they are making misplays.

Resolution1 votes

Get a duo partner; matchmaking is a joke in this game - Your either going to dominate or be dominated. Rarely is there ever a balanced team.

five oh tree 1 votes

There are so many games where you don't even break 4 cs/min. Start there. If you aren't hitting 100 CS at 12:30, don't complain about your teammates' skill levels.

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