If Riot really wants to kill tank ekko

Tilt Thru Time·10/5/2016, 6:33:56 PM·42 votes·2,758 views

Can we make ekko's current kit a little more fluid so he can actually assassinate people. Remove his Passive and Q slow but make his q return faster after it hits a champion.

Just some quick thoughts. Inb4 i start another ekko flame war. ;(

45 Comments

Astôlfo10/5/2016, 6:35:51 PM18 votes

The issue is Fervor and Triforce. After that, his kit encourages extended duels instead of quick burst and leave. (Slow Q, slow return, 3 hit passive, delayed W field, and a healing ultimate) He also has a ton of CC. And base damages somewhat.

These are the reasons.

Blàdedancer10/5/2016, 6:46:41 PM10 votes

I main AP Ekko, and I can tell you well enough his assasination is very strong, just different. He's almost like a sustained burst if you may, and if you play it well it works very nicely, for example in a 1v1 you might W, then Q, then E in, stun, 2nd hit Q, and auto. That will usually kill any squishy.

Darius Strada10/6/2016, 12:05:03 AM5 votes

You want know how you kill tank Ekko? Remove the W passive. It's free damage. Ekko can build tank and only has to live long enough until the passive hits and starts dealing free damage.

Ralanr10/5/2016, 7:54:16 PM5 votes

Just replace his W. Too much utility there.

The Yetii Rider10/6/2016, 3:20:42 PM4 votes

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/champion-reveal/ekko-boy-who-shattered-time

"How can we make an assassin feel good when they're not one-shot killing targets?"

Riot's intent with Ekko was an assassin who couldn't assassinate. So basically, an AP skirmisher before "skirmisher" was a key term.

He's not going to ever assassinate anyone.

xelaker10/5/2016, 11:19:43 PM3 votes

or just reduce his scaling and base numbers...

Dengeden10/6/2016, 5:10:18 AM2 votes

His passive does assassinate people, the burst from it in conjunction with Q, E and W passive is quite formidable on full AP Ekko. His slows are enough to deliver all 3 in a time frame that doesn't feel completely unfair to the person hit.

If you remove the slows from his kit, he'll lose basically all forms of utility and force him to go Rylai's, Gauntlet or Gunblade, turning him into an AP tank at best.

Ekko's ult damage got nerfed because he was winning teamfights with it. If people can't dodge an ability with an 8 second delay, how do you think they'll feel about a faster (W) Q E R combo?

New Tool Album10/6/2016, 7:48:50 AM2 votes

you can nerf stats, scaling all you want, but you can't fix his kit, it is good, a solid engage and a solid gtfo card, you don't just shave parts of a tumor off, you remove the whole tumor, he was beyond busted when he released, they need to do something with him, ekko is now in a decent state, i can't get insta nuked anymore so we are getting somewhere

ChaosThief10/5/2016, 11:58:45 PM1 votes

I'm personally for removing the slows in his kit, but I think making the Q go faster if it hits a champion is probably better.

Catastrop10/6/2016, 6:17:58 PM1 votes

Remove the slow, this never made sense on him. He's the skirmishing assassin, he doesn't want sticking power. Also remove the damage on his ult and shift it elsewhere, it's a terrible Hail Mary skill because of it.

Drahcir10/6/2016, 10:23:10 AM1 votes

What if we just removed his slows, with obvious buffs to other parts of his kit.

dominusx10/6/2016, 11:44:47 AM1 votes

i'd make his Q instanty go back as soon s it hit a champion and remove the obnoxious slow tbh.

kasfas10/6/2016, 12:26:43 PM1 votes

Have his cool downs scale with ap?

Messeery10/6/2016, 12:40:08 PM1 votes

He is getting some changes that target this tank bullshit. Hopefully tank build assassins just fuck off, i find it painful to see assassins that are meant to be high risk high reward that make flashy plays be built like a malphite while still doing decent damage.

A Pig that flys10/5/2016, 6:46:27 PM1 votes

The reason Tank Ekko is so strong is because he has the utility and base damages, along with great synergy with item such as item 3025, item 3027, and item 3143, to build full tank and still do tons of damage. His base damages, along with his ability to stick to targets and apply those damages over again, are the reason why Tank Ekko is such a strong build. The only way to get rid of it would be to lower his base damages (think Darius-esque) while increasing his AP Scaling and removing some of the CC from his kit. So instead of a balanced assassin we'd have a weak early laner who would suffer until he got 2 items, then hit an insane powerspike and never look back.

General Esdeath 10/6/2016, 5:19:04 PM1 votes

If the Q comes back faster the return damage has to be lowered.

NightmareAmazoX10/6/2016, 2:02:46 AM1 votes

Cool idea. +1