Ever since Tank class update,we see less and less Tanks picked up in top lane!

korg023··7 votes·508 views

Before i used to play versus Sion,Maokai,Poppy,Malphite and others...nowdays its only Riven,Yasuo,Fiora,Jayce,Wukong,Talon,Kayle,Teemo....etc

What happened? Wasnt Tank class update meant to make tanks better? We already have 2 carry lanes and potentially jungler why we need carry in top too? Isnt it meant to be tanky lane?

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SlampieceHawke8 votes

I think i know one reason. Fiora exists, the tank shredding, sustain, anti cc machine. Very strong and popular right now with deaths dance.

Against her, you're better off with w full damage or heavy sustain comp

Durzaka1 votes

That is a bit of it.

But the real reason is that Tanks dont have a rush item in response to bruisers/fighters/slayers rushing a Black Cleaver, so they just always lose the lane.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i typically rush item 3024 in lane vs ad bruisers/melees as tank player

Durzaka1 votes

Which lets you survive.

It doesnt let you fight them any better, like old sunfire used to.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

actually it lets me fight and win... due to armor, cdr and mana

i can spam and tank and due more spells with item 3024 into item 3025

i typically rush it as a 1st item vs Camille Darius Fiora Gangplank Garen Irelia Nasus Pantheon Riven Sion Tryndamere MonkeyKing Yasuo Yorick Shen pretty much any ad melee match up top as Maokai and i typically win lane even if the jungler ganks

Durzaka1 votes

You are not fighting very good opponents if you are winning top at maokai against the likes of Darius Fiora GP Riven etc. etc.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

gp and riven is easy for maokai

fiora lil more difficult, darius is a skill match up

the lane i have the most issue with is keld ... as maokai last two yasuo i beat top were gold

i beat a gold riven earlier

demolished a darius earlier and i went with ZERO AP

VoraciousX1 votes

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You are not fighting very good opponents if you are winning top at maokai against the likes of Darius Fiora GP Riven etc. etc.

Maokai has insane sustain now, so against champions with no sustain he can just roflstomp them. His sap magic is literally nuts.

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

Also, Darius exist. His popularity is dropping lately, but I'd bet it is exactly because people stopped playing tanks, which are mostly childish matchups for him

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

no one wants to be a tank no one wants to be a support

every one wants to carry hence why you see carry damage champs in all 5 roles

it is a damage meta

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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no one wants to be a tank no one wants to be a support

every one wants to carry hence why you see carry damage champs in all 5 roles

it is a damage meta

then how do you explain juggernauts dropping off the face of the earth aswell? theyre a carry role.

the tank item changes took a gigantic shit on every champion who needs defensive itemization, and in the same patch they massively buffed carry items. simple as that.

if you look at win and play rates, pretty much all champions who rely on defensive itemization to function dropped off a cliff.

the item changes with the tank update were a complete failure and made tanks and juggernauts less tanky, while they made squishy ad carries more tanky with the buffed item 3812 item 3026

O Fallen Scholar1 votes

tanks are boring to play :/

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

They reworked jugglers and made a top lane tank into a weird so support. Tank items were nerfed in particular subdue cape which most needed to survive. So. Yea.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

The tanks that were updated to become better became better. (Mao's rework was an intentional nerf because of his pro dominance).

As for the other tanks, tanks' itemization was reworked. Tank items are now worse as one item spikes, but better against damage late game.

Tanks are worse at dueling and at split pushing. And no, top lane isn't a tanky lane. It's the split push lane.

Tanks are better after the update in their intended roles. Cinderhulk got straight buffed and has more buffs on the PBE. All tank supports now get a Malphite shield and Knight's Vow gives CDR.

The only tank players who are upset are top lane tank players. And they can play juggernauts, divers, marksmen, mages, skirmishers...or they can jungle. Shocking, I know.

Subject 51 votes

Tanks are constantly taking hits from whiners. I really wish this was like a joke, but it's real as hell.

"ADC2K17LOLOLOL"

How many times do you use people complaining about tank metas?

How many times do you see nerfs that -directly- affect tanks?

Nautilus "Hey - you know I could actually become viable if I build a few item 1056 of these . . ." summoner 14 "We're gonna rework 3 tanks, nerf all of the items in the game, give no compensation buffs to tanks that weren't reworked - and then just completely forget the other guys for several patches in a row." Zac You won't EVER see this dude, like, ever. He's just too broken to be not banned. He's even a godlike support, it's fun too - give it a try.

Sejuani Her passive is just too good to really give up on a jungler role. Fast clear times, a gapcloser with slows and a stun - she's just WAY too good to pass on the junglers role. Plus, she loses to mostly everybody in the top lane. Vayne TheseKennen GuysJayce Are Quinn Fun Fiora DidPantheon Somebody Irelia Say Riven Tank Darius Top?

There is like, a bajillion reasons why you don't want to pick tank top. And Riot apparently doesn't want you to either, because the last known top laner that was a top laner in the meta was Nautilus but they pretty much ended that in like one patch.

So yeah, if you want a tank - pick Jungle or Support. Or wait until the balancing team decides to stop enforcing a particular playstyle.

EDIT Galio I think this guy is still a top laner tank? Is he? I don't see him anymore . . .

Xion The XIV1 votes

Couldn't you consider Nasus a Tank top laner? Since I think he only builds either item 3078 or item 3025 depending on what you needed. And then they just go straight tank items since their Q is their damage?

Kuzja11 votes

I mostly see tanks jungling from where I'm at

GreatWhiteNorth1 votes

Right now, every champion is tankier than before. This reduces the need for peels, and deals with the long range fast moving champs riot introduced.

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