why is sions base hp so low?

Lauricella3··1 votes·681 views

sions base hp is quite low at only 1794 hp at lvl 18, which is quite low, yes I understand he can gain unlimited hp as long as he kills minions, but how often do you even get over 800hp with sions w? Compared to cho' gath 1934 and he can gain as much as 900 hp. The only other reason i can think of is his shield scales with hp as well. what do you think?

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Strawberrycocoa4 votes

Riot loves to gut base stats as compensation for buff abilities. Since Sion can farm extra bonus health, he gets shit base health. Same reason jinx and Tristana have shit base attack speed.

Reikken3 votes

why are orianna's and lulu's base AD so low?

Strawberrycocoa1 votes

Because they have auto-attack enhancing passives.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

he was being sarcastic....

Jamaree1 votes

My guess to balance out his shield because unlike Cho Gath, he doesn't lose his health when he dies on top of the fact of cho gath getting no extra damage because of his health.

Lauricella31 votes

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My guess to balance out his shield because unlike Cho Gath, he doesn't lose his health when he dies on top of the fact of cho gath getting no extra damage because of his health.

sion doesn't gain damage from hp though his w and passive deal 10% of his targets hp. but yeah i agree with the whole losing stacks thing.

Jamaree1 votes

Ohhhh, could have sworn it was his own, kk.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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Ohhhh, could have sworn it was his own, kk.

Only his shield scales off his own HP, so him farming increases his shield strength.

Jamaree1 votes

Ok, so I was right about one thing.

LaceUp231 votes

Yes, but doesn't the shield exploding also scale with his health? I thought it did.

NemeBro1 votes

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sions base hp is quite low at only 1794 hp at lvl 18, which is quite low, yes I understand he can gain unlimited hp as long as he kills minions, but how often do you even get over 800hp with sions w? Compared to cho' gath 1934 and he can gain as much as 900 hp. The only other reason i can think of is his shield scales with hp as well. what do you think?

Because he can infinitely stack his health due to his W's passive. That's it really. It's not even all that hard to do. Every time you kill a cannon minion you get an extra ten bonus health. Also, don't forget that Soul Furnace apparently benefits from cinderhulk (according to the wiki, never really checked the numbers myself in-game). If Sion had high base health as well as infinite stacking hp that benefited from cinderhulk he might get overbearing.

SEKAI1 votes

Because by taking infinite scaling HP into account, his base shouldn't be high.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Thresh doesn't gain armor per level =/ bad champ

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

a sion who stacks correctly will still get more hp than base stats would ever granted to him

a sion who doesnt stack correctly shgould actualy lose something for sucking at playing his champion

thats why base stats suck to create some drawback to the mechanic instead of being a free power

cho has a drawback of losing that hp when he dies

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