currently vayne's E condemn does 50% damage on impact and, 50% impact on a wall.
What if her condemn did 110% of it's current damage if knocked into terrain, and 0% on it's own?
I say this because players who pick vayne in lower elo's tend to use E for it's damage rather than the Utility of the stun, Often resulting in missed kills a poor plays.
I would say let her condemn without hitting a wall do some damage. Not much though, maybe around 10-20%
Dam I actually approve of this too.
still complaining about vayne
people can't stand being outplayed
but when it comes to mf
lol she's fair and fun to play against hurr durr
Give her condemn 20% of her actual damage , can still proc her W passive amd make it 100% if she actually stun on terrain. She already can proc silver bolt damage of à Random condemn, the base damage isnt even neccessary, unless you condemn them on terrain imo.
Or we can just not have Condemn do any damage period, considering the rest of Vayne's kit.
I... don't know.
I think it should do some damage because you're still, well, being impaled with enough force to be struck back in the first place.
Maybe it shouldn't apply a stack of her W unless it hits the wall? That'll cut into the E damage a bit.
Would be a good nerf, Vayne would stop winning trades with 0 effort by shooting a blind condemn after 2 aas.
I approve of this.
This is pretty retarded. Basically all low elo will do the 0% damage.
No, because bad vaynes will then not want to make terrible condemn plays and save us by condemning us back to our own tower when the jg comesto gank
lol as someone who recently supported a vayne who tried and failed to execute someone with the condemn to proc the final silver bolts 7 times in one game that i counted, i think that it would just be better if it didnt proc a silver bolt
47.9% winrate
This board could never do balance.
It's not really used for the damage on Condemn itself but rather the extra Silver Bolt hit.
... but it already does do that? Like, 50% damage is already discouraging using it for damage, especially since if the enemy want to disengage, it's free peel.
Also, I've seen a lot of people asking for Vayne to be nerfed, and general complaints about her, and was wondering if I missed something. Last I checked, Vayne was easily in the top 3 of most mechanically intensive ADC's to play well, especially since her escape moves a grand total of like, 1 teemo forward.
I wouldnt say its a nerf though.
But Vayne's E actually deals little damage if it does not hit a wall. People that use it as a source of damage won't care of the nerf, even if it healed the enemy.
I think this would change nothing, good players couldn't care less, and bad players would still play Vayne because it's a popular champion like Lee and Thresh that people would play even if they had a 10% winrate. Also, those people really spam all their skills hoping they do as much damage as possible, they probably don't care about what are they doing.
yeah, more like a balance nerf not because we should balance the game around lower elo.
