your upcoming new adc overlord

destos··66 votes·18,469 views

Stormrazor B.F. Sword + Pickaxe + Dagger + 925 gold (3400 total) +65 Attack Damage +25% Attack Speed UNIQUE Passive: If you haven't attacked in the last 2.5 seconds, your next basic attack will critically strike. UNIQUE Passive: When you critically strike, gain 25% attack speed and 8% movement speed for 1.5 seconds.

Blitzcrank presses e for guaranteed 300% ad damage

87 Comments

Step Sis Lux26 votes

Random caitlyn with rapid fire and new item? Gotta love playing against this

DeusVult10 votes

TBH its pretty much the same as current Caitlyn when she is mid game and has item 3031 + item 3094 and is working on stattik shiv. Just now she is guaranteed to crit instead of criting 50% of the time

Z3Sleeper2 votes

It actually deals less damage with a single headshot, but it's guaranteed to deal at least a normal crit rather than a chance for a 250% crit (+ the amp to her passive from current IE).

Zedex1 votes

Which is why they just nerfed her headshot in the last patch (but everyone seemingly missed that)

Dasdi9618 votes

This sounds like it will make adc damage even more frontloaded than it already is.

Marshbouy4 votes

EDIL:I have not read the new changes.

Dasdi9622 votes

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It'll only make it frontloaded a % of the time, with that % being based off of the ADC's crit chance.

Lets say vayne has built item 3087 item 3006 item 3031 item 3072 item 3036 item 3094 If she does a Q-AA combo to poke someone, she'll do a lot of damage, 80% of the time. But the other 20% of the time she will be doing a considerable amount of damage, but not nearly as much as she would be. This item should remove that RNG from the game by making it a guaranteed crit as long as she hasn't attacked in 2.5 seconds.

That sounds like a buff, right? Well it is, but If (and that's a big if) riot were to then nerf the damage from the stattik+RFC combo to a more reasonable level, it should hopefully by an overal nerf with a removal of RNG.

I am actually more worried about assassins using it.

Marshbouy9 votes

Shit...

SpecterVonBaren3 votes

Rengar :Mwahahahahaha!

Ryrynounet6 votes

Talon :Bwahahahahahaha! Khazix :Gwahahahahahahaha! Zed : Laugh in zed

ZackTheWaffleMan2 votes

laughs in Predator Garen

MetalGearTeemo1 votes

[sg-ahri-1] <--- when Predator Garen has you flanked with this item. He's just gonna Q and Ult me isn't he... ISN'T HE!?

LordGeovanni1 votes

Pretty sure those are the intended users.

Häxel1 votes

well to be fair this itembuild will have 120% 100% crit chance on 8.11 cause item 1018 gets removed from the game and item 3031 will no longer give crit on its own but like a Yasuo passive double your whole Crit chance.

kile1471 votes

How will that work with Yas passive I wonder. item 3046 now gives 120% crit chance?

Häxel4 votes

yes. but caps ofcourse at 100% crit. So shortterm: item 3031 + item 3046 still gives him full crit but his early is weaker cause he needs to finish ie after a zeal(item) first and not can go item 1018 for direct 40%crit. https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/kF5ABez8-marksman-and-ad-itemization-changes-coming-to-pbe-shortly?comment=00030000

kile1471 votes

Seems a little BS tbh. I want crit nerfs, but making it so that all crit users will probably overcap on crit chance seems like a bad way to nerf them. This might be hinting to Riot adding a rune sometime in the future that does something with the extra crit chance beyond 100% though.

Häxel1 votes

Just cause they did it after 8 years on cdr doesn't mean they will do it on crit as well. If anythign riot said they wanna rework crit as a whole sometime in the future cause while they support some rng styles, crit is a bad example in their opinion. So these changes could only stay like for a year maybe. Also this is just the yasuo case. Normala dcs need ie, a finished zealitem and another zeal for 100% crit. But normaly you wanna finish also the second zeal to add synergiez like rapidfirecanon with stattiks. All items got more expensive, iee plus 2 zealitems as a whole got 700 Gold more expensive. And with the revert of lw and weaker sustain so lifestealitems get again more important it is questionable if adcs will still rush 3 crit items. Even if they will have at 6 items 100% crit this will be far less bad cause with no extra crit dmg on ie you no longer burst squishys down, the truedamage is jus so they can remain doing their job to slowly melt tanks. So unless you are a malphite, rammus or taric main these critchanges **are ** actual crit nerfs.

kile1471 votes

They could also just reduce the amount of crit on the zeal upgrades by 5% so standard builds don't give you excess crit. I just think it feels bad to be paying for stats you cannot use at all, but still need to have.

Häxel1 votes

you only pay for excesive if you realy go 2 zealitems and ie. Until then you don't waste anything. Like you could literaly also jsut read: ie gives 40%crit if you want.

kile1471 votes

From my understanding the crit was removed from IE, so the only crit items in the game are going to be the Zeal items, which all give 30% Crit Chance. If IE still gives crit then this is very different. Also, Yasuo and Tryndamere will both still have the problem of overcapping on crit regardless.

Häxel1 votes

ie gives no crit yes. but what problem are you talking about? ther eis no problem. cdr is on MANY items, also on runes, masteries or other stuff like blue buff so having already 40% cdr was an actual problem. Crit is still gated now that you probably not going to buy 4 zealitems plus ie. tryndamere while geting nerfed early game he just got buffed lategame with theses changes cause he can get now easier 100% crit. yasuo didn't change much so only the early game nerf counts.

kile1471 votes

My point is that it is impossible to get exactly 100% crit. Standard builds that attempt to get 100% crit will overcap.

item 3087 item 3031 item 3094 will now give 120% crit Tryndamere /Yasuo+ item 3031 item 3046 will now get 120%-130% crit.

If the goal is to encourage ADC to only build 1 crit item alongside IE or risk losing some gold efficiency then I guess that is fine, but Yasuo and Tryndamere are now going to overcap on crit every game. It's not like this is the end of the world, but it seems like an odd design choice to make it impossible to do a standard crit build without wasting some gold efficiency.

Häxel1 votes

But you don't waste gold efficiency. Crititems don't get or loose efficiency, only ie efficiency changes. It is easy to calculate: item 1051 is the standarditem for Crit and vaules 10% crit is 400 Gold worth or 1% is 40 Gold worth. Withitem 3031 you have 800 Gold of efficiency worth in Crit. item 3086 costs 8.11 1300 Gold, with ie it would be worth 2100. It no longer doubles the efficiency as for zeal you pay also for attackspeed and movementspeed, even if you get more crit doubled as in brawlers. item 3046 and other items cost 8.11 2800 Gold, with ie 4000 Gold. The efficiency is even lower cause now the 2800 now also includes a passive (but even without the passive, item 3094 alone as the stat weakest item is 2147.5 Gold worth). You get that Ie has not even a constant effiency increase, % decreases with stronger items, crit amount you get ofcourse increases. Similar to a item 3089 where you also get more ap with stronger items but % decreases as on simple item 1052 /item 1026 /item 1058 items. The Goal on ie is simple to be more of a Lategame Item similar to Rabbadons, a bit better cause crit is limitated and rabbadons works with every item better but still it is this simple math.

Colte18 votes

i don't get how riot always says they are nerfing something then comes up with the most absurd item that makes the nerf pointless.. a buff shadowing the nerf wtf?

kile14715 votes

Players- "Riot, we don't like how ADC's have a lot of their damage as RNG" Riot- "We hear you and have made an item that gives 100% crit chance, no more RNG!" Players- "Wait, what"

Z3Sleeper2 votes

Not so much a nerf as it is a shifting of power.

They're going from RNG burst per second to slightly less burst per second and more DPS.

Basically, more predictable damage. If you know the ADC only has a Razor +1 other item it's safe to say that they aren't gonna be doing much in an extended fight where they can't back off and wait 2.5 seconds for the passive to reset. Look at that! Counterplay to autos!

Seriously though take a second look. As a top lane main I hate ADCs and these changes ARE good changes.

Zeal cost +100g.

Zeal upgrades +200g.

Infinity Edge no longer has crit chance or the crit damage passive but now has crit chance doubling and "crit conqueror". This means that IE alone is basically worthless now and absolutely REQUIRES one of the cost-nerfed zeal items. In addition to this, the item is going to do less to squishy targets on crits.

Razor as already explained is weaker in extended fights early on but good for poking. Later it simply functions as an item that grants 25% AS and 8% MS.

Essence Reaver is the only one that looks shaky to me. 20% cdr on basic abilities PER AUTO (granted it requires ulting) sounds absolutely busted on a wide variety of champions.

item 3508 item 3124 MasterYi Q permanently up and mana cost semi-negated. item 3508 Renekton Ulting, using E Q then W will nearly reset the cooldowns of all 3 of his abilities so he can do it again. item 3508 Jax = All his abilities are up 60% faster (more counterstrike, more screwing over auto attacks). item 3508 TahmKench = Hilarious no cooldown Q and W for infinite chain CC lock trolling a single target lmfao. (press R then cancel) item 3508 Taric = YES. THE MAN-GOD NOW HAS NO COOLDOWNS WHATSOEVER LOL.

And ofcourse this chick is gonna abuse the hell out of it: Xayah

The possibilities...

Sp33d Zer02 votes

Except that xayah doesn't want to ult unless it has defensive purposes the majority of the time. She will still buy Er for the mana, but she is going to lose damage on her feather pull because of no crit, lose uptime on the passive because of how long her R animation is, and won't be able to abuse it as easily for a Do a increase as almost every other champion in the game.

SwiftKitten8813 votes

the sad part is how this will 100% break assasins who dont normally get crit and now have an 100% guarenteed crit

ChaosThief7 votes

The return of Rengar's ult crit leap is nigh.

Z3Sleeper2 votes

3400g

Duskblade and Youmuus are still better early items. Plus Lord Doms is about to be amazing on Assassins again and BC is still a great item.

However, it'll prolly still make a pretty insane 4th-6th item or just an insane rush item against a squishy team (rito said they aren't gonna let dusk and razor stack though).

So if you have to choose one or the other, it's prolly dusk for early game and razor to swap for literally end game full build.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

How is Lord doms going to be insane... if it's getting removed?

i kick routers1 votes

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Sp33d Zer01 votes

My mistake, I read giants slayer being removed as ldr

Feel Apathy7 votes

Twitch Rengar Shaco

remakoro6 votes

Remove http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_of_the_Divine Add this shit... Gotta try it on Thresh item 3087

Kilanost1 votes

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Remove http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_of_the_Divine Add this shit... Gotta try it on Thresh item 3087

This is the one I'm afraid of, not blitz. Lol. Never ganking bottom again if these changes go live. Have fun Boyz, I'm out.

Anu3isII6 votes

My only (big) problem is the CD of the first passive. 2.5 seconds is really low, and I could see long Range champions poking people down with crits every 3 seconds. I would suggest making it like Mobi Boots, not attacking for 8 seconds

SEKAI6 votes

Can you imagine Rengar rushing this shit and Duskblade at the same time?

Hell, what about Jhin, first 3 core items IE, Rageblade, and this bad boy?

Do people not raise questions during staff meeting at Riot HQ?

SpongebobIsLife6 votes

rageblade wont b built on jhin anymore after patch.

Shadow Hazard4 votes

monkey man with duskblade + stormrazor + trinity force he is going to straight up overkill whoever he gets on

flibitydoo3 votes

more like crit rango is back (but did it ever leave us)

but in all honesty this item looks way more like an assassin item in a similar vein to sword of the divine

Meep Man3 votes

The only ADC I'm scared of with this are Draven and Jhin .

Twitch maybe, but less so.

Im actually more interested in this with Fighters and Assassins, like Camille Gangplank MasterYi Nasus Nocturne Rengar Shaco Talon XinZhao Zed . These guys can REALLY crap on people with a single free crit, especially Gangplank, Nocturne, Rengar, and Shaco. Nocturne especially benefits from every stat provided the most of all of them with Rengar arguably being almost equal as well.

Doozku3 votes

Gangplank

Dear god...

4th3t0s3 votes

Just imagining this on Garen with item 3078 and item 3147.

JUSTICE INTENSIFIES

remakoro1 votes

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Just imagining this on Garen with item 3078 and item 3147.

JUSTICE INTENSIFIES

ive been thinking about that:D A LOT :D There gonna be so much justice >< [sg-jinx]

MetalGearTeemo1 votes

That feeling when item 3142 item 3078 item 3053 has been my core on Garen for a while now, and I'm starting to see the desire for glassassin again.

remakoro1 votes

Dude i love your name :DDDDDDD

FakeGravity3 votes

what about gankplank? are we back to the old days of gankplank oneshot with Q?

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