@RIOT When Will Thornmail Have A Place In The Game Again?

King Odin··5 votes·755 views

With so much life stealitem 3153 item 3812 item 3139 item 3072 ,offensive MR items item 3139 item 3156 item 3814 and Armour penetration item 3033 item 3036 item 3071 you'd think Riot would consider making an item like Thornmail which was niche before but now useless on nearly everyone except Rammus and Malphite against a mostly auto based team at least kind of viable.

If rushed by its self it deals atleast 25 magic damage and to put it in perspective item 3504 steals 20 magic damage worth of health so if your adc has a dorans and you shield him he will not take any damage from Thornmail. Rammus's W at rank one gives 40 Armour and 40 MR and reflects 25 magic damage (+ 10% armor) so that's really how poor Thornmail is by it's self.

The fact it scales off bonus armour when armour is a terrible thing to stack in this META with all the armour penetration, lethality, true damage and armour penetration kits like JayceJarvanIV Garen Gangplank Fiora Camille Vayne Nasus MonkeyKing Vi Yasuo . Not to mention if you do indeed build it for let's say the ADC then if they have an AD caster of their team it's basically useless against them. Jayce Riven just to name a few.

I know Riot feels like adcs are weak right now but it's not the tanks with thornmail killing them it's the Jayce one shotting them or the Hecarim killing them with 1 E. Even Rammus can be dueled by nearly any adc if they have 1 life steal item and it's just stupid.

3 Comments

Jefftiffy1 votes

When they decide is no longer a super niche item for armor stacking which is just being ignored by sheer huge amounts of armor penetration and true damage.

King Odin2 votes

It's not even super niche anymore, even in the situations like full ad comps it still performs pretty poorly.

PPPPPPPPPPPP2701 votes

Thornmail works best against high attack speed targets because of the armor ratio instead of damage dealt like old thornmail. Thornmail would be a shitty buy on champions that don't auto a lot like Wukong or Riven.

The fact you actually lose damage by buying a randuin's Omen or Frozen heart is painful.

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