I quit......

Lyless·Jul 14, 2015·1 votes·1,814 views

So, the fourth person that said they would help me has failed. I told them it was impossible and it was true. So, I am done! Hell with it!

88 Comments

LuggJul 14, 20157 votes

With an attitude like that, you are probably far beyond help.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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With an attitude like that, you are probably far beyond help.

We played games today and yesterday and guaranteed me a win and it didn't happen.

LuggJul 14, 20153 votes

There is never a guarantee of a win. You could end up with a troll or afk on your team or the other team could have a diamond smurf.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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There is never a guarantee of a win. You could end up with a troll or afk on your team or the other team could have a diamond smurf.

That's every game for me. Not just one! EVERY ONE!

LuggJul 14, 20153 votes

The other team actually has A GREATER chance to have an AFK or troll on their team or to be facing a smurf on your team if you are a good player.

BeoridasJul 14, 20151 votes

false. because the personal perspective is true for all 10 players. that argument cant be true for all 10 if one is to eventually afk or dc.

LuggJul 15, 20152 votes

That is faulty logic. Let's say there will be an AFK in the game, there is a greater chance that it will be the enemy team because they have 5 chances to get the troll vs 4 chances for your team. That means that the enemy team has a 20% higher chance of getting the afk. So, over the long run, you have no excuse because you have a 20% greater chance EVERY game to have the advantage.

BeoridasJul 15, 20151 votes

faulty logic? where? I am saying it can happen to anyone including YOU.

that self perspective is true for all 10 players. where is the fallacy in there? what?

as for trolling...that perspective must be true for one person including yourself! SOMEONE HAS to be the troll no?

so that 90% isnt 90% anymore now is there? since its assuming the (self) will never be to the troll and thats untrue AND faulty.

so its not 4 chances for your team. its 5. you count just as much. Since the very people who trolls can tell themselves that. We all have trolled at least once. or even more. So THAT logic isnt valid. the math of it is much more complex and varied.

LuggJul 15, 20152 votes

I explained that it doesn't apply to all 10. YOU are not going to be afk 100% of the time unless you are the troll. So it only applies to the other 9 and 5 of them are on the other team. Not a hard concept to understand.

BeoridasJul 15, 20151 votes

and neither are they. so i dunno where do you base your logic on. you wont be afk 100% of the time has nothing to do with what we are talking.

we are talking about statistics with your own team and the enemy team. not how many times someone may afk. you count just as much. and the other guy who tells himself the same logic is applying that afk reasoning to you. so you are in the boat regardless how you want to look at it.

LuggJul 15, 20151 votes

Wow, you really don't get it.

BeoridasJul 15, 20151 votes

well that sure is logical. people doesnt agree with me? they are dumb. If you want to be right, ego-centered and self righteous/uncompromising. Then you must have the most right thoughts since thoughts appeared in apes.

You arent getting my logic(somehow) and im not getting your dismissal of the self to all 10. lets leave it at that.

LuggJul 15, 20151 votes

I have explained it quite well. You are just one of those people who refuse to face the fact that you are wrong. You need to overcome that if you want to get better at League and at life. I don't mean to hurt your feelings but you need someone to tell it to you straight.

I hate being wrong, but I will at least admit it when I am wrong and change my tune.

LuggJul 16, 20151 votes

I'm not saying you are bad at league or at life. What I am trying to convey is that by not opening your mind to opposing schools of thought, you are only holding back your own potential. I have had my mind changed from things that I would have never thought would happen, and I feel it has made me a better person.

Yeah, admitting that you are wrong about something stings. It really does on a few levels, but that's ok because you move on and you are (for lack of a better term) more enlightened.

"We are having both subjective and factual disagreements. Means we have different experiences that leads us to a specific mind set. But We are talking about mathematics. On a abstract level.

So to put it straight: i dont think you get my point and i definately dont get yours. Its not i dont agree with the principle you put out, but i disagree with the conclusion you provide as an absolute mathematical fact when there is subjectivity involved." - This was quite well stated and I will leave it at that.

Angry MonsterJul 14, 20152 votes

So i do not blame the person who stopped helping you

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1885854854/217527769?tab=builds

So for Ashe in this game you ran AP quints, Built completely wrong (health and non crit) and are taking AP masteries. Are you aware that ashe has 0 AP scaling out side of her ult? The point of the ult is to stun and slow not to scale. Their even more wrong with your skill order.

It seems to me that you are only half listening and doing what you want.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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So i do not blame the person who stopped helping you

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1885854854/217527769?tab=builds

So for Ashe in this game you ran AP quints, Built completely wrong (health and non crit) and are taking AP masteries. Are you aware that ashe has 0 AP scaling out side of her ult? The point of the ult is to stun and slow not to scale. Their even more wrong with your skill order.

It seems to me that you are only half listening and doing what you want.

One I was forced to play as ashe the only adc I have and two I got stuck playing it

Angry MonsterJul 14, 20151 votes

The fact you do not understand the game enough is part of the problem. Point in case the Ashe game i selected. Ashe is a good ADC right now, but the fact you do not understand the kit is a problem. I willing to bet you probably do not know a significant portion of the champs.

People telling you what to do does not matter when you can not freely apply it. I have learned this from helping others.

rockdalianJul 14, 20154 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kaosu Desu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEYjxLuz,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-07-14T06:46:55.958+0000)

The fact you do not understand the game enough is part of the problem. Point in case the Ashe game i selected. Ashe is a good ADC right now, but the fact you do not understand the kit is a problem. I willing to bet you probably do not know a significant portion of the champs.

People telling you what to do does not matter when you can not freely apply it. I have learned this from helping others.

He does this all the time refuses boots warding and semi decent build paths claiming it's only his team he has no will to get better refuses to listen to advice normally I wouldn't say this but in this 1% rare case good riddance

Angry MonsterJul 14, 20152 votes

Lets look at this game.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1885772966/217527769?tab=builds

You skill build is bad. You should be taking W at level 2 for quicker clear and maxing it secound. You take E third and max third. Your runes are ok (you can use these exact same runes on every ADC).

Your item build timings are bad. You sit on parts of your completed jungle item till you can buy a cutlass. You are missing an early power spike by waiting so long. You build a PD which is not bad necessarily but you do not have any damage built to justify the purchase. At 42 minutes you upgrade your trinket.

Something is wrong in the fact you are not securing the dragon. I am not sure if you are dead or just not there. It is worth blowing the smite charge so you get that gold. You seem to target garen a lot in this match 1/3 of your kills are on the tank when you built assassin. You should of upgraded your trinket to red to see the enemy as they stealth plus when you use red trinket it disables any mushrooms in the zone you swept.

ToonspikeJul 14, 20152 votes

yeah he has other problems beside build timings http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1885310644/217527769?tab=overview

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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yeah he has other problems beside build timings http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1885310644/217527769?tab=overview

Do you get off on harassing me?

ToonspikeJul 14, 20154 votes

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Do you get off on harassing me?

im not harassing, you just cant take any form of criticisms or when people try to prove it you

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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im not harassing, you just cant take any form of criticisms or when people try to prove it you

Yes you are. I told you to leave me alone. You said there is no hope for me. I disagree. Not leave me alone. How many times do I have to report you?

ToonspikeJul 14, 20156 votes

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Yes you are. I told you to leave me alone. You said there is no hope for me. I disagree. Not leave me alone. How many times do I have to report you?

you keep going on the forums repeatedly complaining on how you cant win or cant get out of bronze but when anyone actually tries to give you advice like myself or anyone else genually tried to you brushed it off like somehow you have a greater knowledge on the subject, im mearly informing everyone about the type of player you are its not harrasment

DrCyanideJul 14, 20152 votes

He's not wrong about that game being horrible though.

You were playing an ADC, yet never built any AD... at all. By the end of the game you literally had more Bonus AP than you had Bonus AD, because you took what I can only assume are your Kayle Runes.

I don't know anything about Nocturne to suggest what you could improve there, but you do remind me a bit of a friend of mine who's a Jungle Main. He loves his Tanky Junglers, and as such has struggled playing ADC. He always feels so squishy, and my wife and I have to keep talking him out of building tanky items. It's taken a while, but he's getting better at the role.

Perhaps what you need is a friend who can help you learn other positions so you can play them better when you need to. Or maybe it's time to expand your champion pool, set Nocturne, Kayle, and Soraka aside for a little while and learn other champions. Even if you don't like playing the other champions, it will help you understand their strengths and their weaknesses for when you go against them.

steampigJul 14, 20152 votes

Good. Bye.

AndyChronoJul 14, 20152 votes

Goodbye and good riddance.

LintheJul 14, 20151 votes

Wow... just wow.... thread delivers... I guess. Talk about kicking people who are actually trying to help.

BeersteinJul 14, 20152 votes

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Wow... just wow.... thread delivers... I guess. Talk about kicking people who are actually trying to help.

This is a habit of his that he indulges in multiple threads a day, it's so common that he's the only name I legitimately recognize on the forum when I see it. We can only hope that he truly does follow through and leaves.

rockdalianJul 14, 20151 votes

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This is a habit of his that he indulges in multiple threads a day, it's so common that he's the only name I legitimately recognize on the forum when I see it. We can only hope that he truly does follow through and leaves.

I recognize a cpl names lol toon for example and Ekko or feed

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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I recognize a cpl names lol toon for example and Ekko or feed

see that's how these LOL players are. They give nothing but bad advice, and then they get carried to wherever they are.

ToonspikeJul 14, 20151 votes

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see that's how these LOL players are. They give nothing but bad advice, and then they get carried to wherever they are.

which is funny because you've made posts in the forums asking people to carry you out of bronze, all of which apprently failed but according to your logic you are exempt from this apprently

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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Wow... just wow.... thread delivers... I guess. Talk about kicking people who are actually trying to help.

How is telling the same thing over and over again and it not working. Time after time it doesn't work.

BeersteinJul 14, 20151 votes

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How is telling the same thing over and over again and it not working. Time after time it doesn't work.

Why do you care? You're leaving.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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Why do you care? You're leaving.

then don't comment.

ToonspikeJul 14, 20152 votes

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then don't comment.

if you dont want people to rely to your comments on the forums then dont post threads and comments on them yourself

LintheJul 14, 20152 votes

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How is telling the same thing over and over again and it not working. Time after time it doesn't work.

People in this thread have give you all kinds of SPECIFIC, constructive criticism. If you don't want to listen, that is on you.. not on them and not on your team.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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People in this thread have give you all kinds of SPECIFIC, constructive criticism. If you don't want to listen, that is on you.. not on them and not on your team.

It's not specific.

LintheJul 14, 20152 votes

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It's not specific.

I cherry picked one post:

"So for Ashe in this game you ran AP quints, Built completely wrong (health and non crit) and are taking AP masteries. Are you aware that ashe has 0 AP scaling out side of her ult"

What is non-specific about that? I mean I guess if you REALLY need info on to take instead of AP you could have asked for clarification but I think you are just trolling at this point.

ToonspikeJul 14, 20151 votes

oh and in the game you just finished, just for starters you keep saying how your team always feeds but in that one not only is everyone in the game a higehr elo than you, you were the also the one who did the worst overall on your team. I saw a teamfight where you chose to focus down a shen who had a sunfire and warmogs instead of the carries, i later then saw you waste your ult on the same shen who was at the time 3 levels ahead of you and a entire item ahead yet you still tried to 1 v 1 him. Only for you to lose half your hp run back to your 3rd turret and stay there long enough for him and malphite to run up and kill you instead of healing up at the fountain, right toward the very end of the game when the enemy team was doing baron which was not only warded but your team pinged several times and was approaching to contest it you decided to walk back to fountain for a minute while you waited for enough gold to buy a warden's mail then after your entire team died trying to contest it you walk through your jungle and facecheck the entire enemy team. Fortuntely your team surrendered. If you had gone to baron with your team you could have easily ulted and killed malphite who was only at less than 10% at the time from attempting to do baron and used your own smite to steal it. Now with all of this please tell me how its your team's fault on how you did not win that game. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1886577728/217527769?tab=stats

LylessJul 14, 20152 votes

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oh and in the game you just finished, just for starters you keep saying how your team always feeds but in that one not only is everyone in the game a higehr elo than you, you were the also the one who did the worst overall on your team. I saw a teamfight where you chose to focus down a shen who had a sunfire and warmogs instead of the carries, i later then saw you waste your ult on the same shen who was at the time 3 levels ahead of you and a entire item ahead yet you still tried to 1 v 1 him. Only for you to lose half your hp run back to your 3rd turret and stay there long enough for him and malphite to run up and kill you instead of healing up at the fountain, right toward the very end of the game when the enemy team was doing baron which was not only warded but your team pinged several times and was approaching to contest it you decided to walk back to fountain for a minute while you waited for enough gold to buy a warden's mail then after your entire team died trying to contest it you walk through your jungle and facecheck the entire enemy team. Fortuntely your team surrendered. If you had gone to baron with your team you could have easily ulted and killed malphite who was only at less than 10% at the time from attempting to do baron and used your own smite to steal it. Now with all of this please tell me how its your team's fault on how you did not win that game. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1886577728/217527769?tab=stats

So, I should have jumped into a team fight I wasn't going to win? I mean you just cherry pick everything wrong and nothing I did right? What kind of advice is this?

BeersteinJul 14, 20151 votes

Still waiting for that add on the 1v1 you offered me, if it helps I'll play support.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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Still waiting for that add on the 1v1 you offered me, if it helps I'll play support.

I sent you an invite.

BeersteinJul 15, 20151 votes

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I sent you an invite.

Gotta give him credit for showing up. Made sure to not touch healing/mana til after I died once.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1886115929/35406890?tab=overview&participant=2

The Ninja Tabi against sona was a little odd. The real mistake was not feeding the poro overlords a biscuit though.

ToonspikeJul 15, 20152 votes

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Gotta give him credit for showing up. Made sure to not touch healing/mana til after I died once.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1886115929/35406890?tab=overview&participant=2

The Ninja Tabi against sona was a little odd. The real mistake was not feeding the poro overlords a biscuit though.

he probably saw how much your auto were going because of your q passive and lichbane and thought he could mitigate if you got boots.... if he knew how the game worked however he would have known thats its all still converterd into magic damage

LylessJul 15, 20151 votes

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Gotta give him credit for showing up. Made sure to not touch healing/mana til after I died once.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1886115929/35406890?tab=overview&participant=2

The Ninja Tabi against sona was a little odd. The real mistake was not feeding the poro overlords a biscuit though.

I keep my word. He's the far better player.

BeoridasJul 14, 20151 votes

this isnt about the game. its just you overall attitude and how you handle everything in general. Even if you were right you would still be wrong in the big picture and lose still.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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this isnt about the game. its just you overall attitude and how you handle everything in general. Even if you were right you would still be wrong in the big picture and lose still.

Dude that's a lie. I have been positive and negative. It makes no difference. NONE!

BeoridasJul 14, 20152 votes

i dont mean that. im talking about your current behaviour out of game. thats actually much more critical since it affects how you get in a game and how you perform in game.

And ive always said: The point in life is learning. no learning, no moving forward. Believe it or not: saying you do learn and you have learned is the exact opposite of what learning is. Learning is equal to humility and self criticism. Which you seem to be severely lacking. When you think you know, its usually when you know the less. We are the most oblivious to our own failures and shortcomings.

Socrates said once: The only thing i know is that i know nothing.

And thats how greatness is born.