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We should just label nidalee has resourceless

karto2287··32 votes·1,998 views

The blue bar is just missleading cause it doesnt even move in her cougar form and moves milimeters by milimeters when all she does is chuck spears in the dark all day and still being able to do stupid damage

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SwiftKitten887 votes

or you can pink one of those 20 + commonly picked champs that counters nidalee.

OR your can learn how to dodge.. you know.. like walk sideways a half a centimeter so the slow moving projectile that stops on the first target hit MISSES you...

nidalee spear is pretty much the hardest skillshot in the game to land.

if your going to STAND STILL when she throws it at you. then you don't have a right to complain

OR you can stand behind creep.

Preacher Saiba4 votes

half a centimeter? LOL have you seen that hitbox,also I LOOOOOOVE ''PINKING'' CHAMPIONS.

Antonok6 votes

Oh you mean the hitbox that got nerfed into one of the skinniest hitboxes in the game?

Yea, they are hard to hit if the person has half a brain NOT to walk into them. And this isn't counting the times it straight goes THROUGH the person

Preacher Saiba3 votes

yea well it's really hard to dodge something that's coming through the fucking fog of war and is sometimes bugged where it's almost impossible to see.

Antonok6 votes

The same can be said for ANY skillshot. Blitz/thresh, Xerath, Ziggs, Lee, Jarven, Vi, Aatrox, Ahri. All these from the FoW can and will mostlikely get you killed.

Preacher Saiba2 votes

BUT THEY WILL NOT CHUNK YOUR HEALTH IMMEDIATELY OR EVEN ONE SHOT YOU IF YOUR SQUISHY.

Antonok4 votes

1- If its a jungle Nid, shes not building enough AP to do that or she WILL get wrecked by the jungle creeps/enemy jungler until late game. At which point she'll just blow up when one of the carries looks at her.

2- item 3139 item 3111 item 3102 item 3155 item 3156 say hello. It is, in fact, perfectly fine for ANYONE INCLUDING ADCS to break the precious meta builds and build to the situation/enemy team.

A Miss Fortune2 votes

I main ADC.

1 late game Nidalee spear = gg

No matter if you build Magic Resistance or not.

Nidalee is broken don't try to deny it.

Narasimha2 votes

If you're getting hit by a Nida spear late game consistently as a squishy, you deserve everything that happens to you. If you're a tank, then don't bother, those things tickle.

Antonok2 votes

This pretty much.

Late game an ADC is squishy regardless. If you get caught out or take too much damage in the stalemate dance at objectives, it's either your fault for being caught out, or your tanks fault for not soaking up the poke damage like he's supposed to.

Narasimha1 votes

You're thinking of Morgana.

Phoenix Kotori 7 votes

Have you like actually played her ever or are you spouting shit for upvotes cause you can?

Her E especially goes mana really damn fast, it's why she so meh for top lane now.

Fried Noob5 votes

Wait wait wait. Wait. Wait. Nid has mana? Since when?

karto22871 votes

lel

KaisadiIIa4 votes

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Suicidal Zed3 votes

think about it man, 6 abilities in total, not including ult and if all of them had to use mana she would just drain all the mana down to 0 by doing a full combo so it wouldn't make sense, after a combo your useless. Besides chucking spears doesn't always guarantee they will land so say for example you keep throwing and throwing until you finally land one but by then you realize you've thrown so many your nearly out of mana so how would you finish your full combo if cougar form required mana? It just doesn't make sense :/ and please stop complaining so much about nidalee, it gets kind of annoying when the majority of post on boards are people QQing about a champion especially nidalee, that's all i see on boards is nidalee. I hope they just fix the invisible spear and that's it she doesn't need a Nerf, people just don't know how to dodge

DisasterSola6 votes

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think about it man, 6 abilities in total, not including ult and if all of them had to use mana she would just drain all the mana down to 0 by doing a full combo so it wouldn't make sense, after a combo your useless. Besides chucking spears doesn't always guarantee they will land so say for example you keep throwing and throwing until you finally land one but by then you realize you've thrown so many your nearly out of mana so how would you finish your full combo if cougar form required mana? It just doesn't make sense :/ and please stop complaining so much about nidalee, it gets kind of annoying when the majority of post on boards are people QQing about a champion especially nidalee, that's all i see on boards is nidalee. I hope they just fix the invisible spear and that's it she doesn't need a Nerf, people just don't know how to dodge

... No. Nidalee needs a nerf. Shes one of the most toxic champions in the game and has been fore quite a while. Her buffs only made it worse - before, her spear was dangerous but building magic resistence fixed the problem (because nid had to choose between AD or AP, mostly). Now, nid builds AP to do ALL her damage. Whats more, she has more than a flash of guaranteed damage if she gets you with a Q or E.

Hawnda6 votes

if she gets you with a Q or E.

Do you Nid at all? You mean Q or W right?

All I think Nidalee needs is a slight nerf on her pounce, everything else feels fine. She does have mana problems, maybe not jungle Nidalee but neither does any other jungler with blue.

Pounce nerf could be something like 2 second increased cooldown if pounce doesn't hit an enemy (possibly stacking). This way cougar form stays consistent with the no mana cost scheme but punishes her for just running around with pounce.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Do you Nid at all? You mean Q or W right?

All I think Nidalee needs is a slight nerf on her pounce, everything else feels fine. She does have mana problems, maybe not jungle Nidalee but neither does any other jungler with blue.

Pounce nerf could be something like 2 second increased cooldown if pounce doesn't hit an enemy (possibly stacking). This way cougar form stays consistent with the no mana cost scheme but punishes her for just running around with pounce.

nidalee jungle has serious mana issues. she cant do jack shit without blue buff.. and that means your mid laner is NEVER going to get it

Hawnda5 votes

That's why I don't understand the complaints.

Now, nid builds AP to do ALL her damage. Whats more, she has more than a flash of guaranteed damage if she gets you with a Q or E.

This could literally just be a description of Akali.

LankPants2 votes

This could literally just be a description of Akali.

Well you know, it could but Akali only has around one third of Nid's spear range on her Q. Nid's hop also outranges Akali's ult by 50 range against a hunted target and can be used as an escape.

Akali also has less damage on her kit than Nid for some reason, a Q-R-W-Q/E combo from Nid does more damage than a Q-R-AA-E combo from Akali and generally has far less risk associated with it.

So basically Nid does everything Akali can do better if you only look at 4 of her 6 abilities. That's the main reason why people complain about Nid, she has far too much on her kit.

Ayame Isaki1 votes

Don't forget the part how Akali needs that AA to trigger Q before she uses E as E no longer procs Q.

Bears Dont Care4 votes

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nidalee jungle has serious mana issues. she cant do jack shit without blue buff.. and that means your mid laner is NEVER going to get it

Build a tear. Problem solved

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Obvious Nidalee main.

qetzel5 votes

Really good argument. You sure outwitted him!

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Obvious Nidalee main.

qetzel3 votes

Really good argument. You sure outwitted him!

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Obvious Nidalee main confirmed.

Go play a balanced champion no one wants you on the Boards when you play a 120% AP Scaling spear throwing, infinite dashing, manaless champ with a heal and executes.

qetzel3 votes

Really good argument. You sure outwitted him!

bad arcade kitty2 votes

you probably never played nida, she runs oom easy, not that easy as ahri or the more so lux, but still

Spacesuit Spiff2 votes

Ok yeah, so now she doesn't even need to rush a mana regen item anymore, great idea. Buff Nid.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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Ok yeah, so now she doesn't even need to rush a mana regen item anymore, great idea. Buff Nid.

they will never make a resourceless heal, lol and her heal is strong

SmokingPuffin2 votes

Approximately all Nidalee builds buy a mana item item 3040 item 3027

SummonerSquid2 votes

Nidalee is actually very mana dependent in early and mid game if she doesn't have blue buff. This is why most Nidalee players rush a mana item first (item 3070 item 3028 item 3114 item 3010).

Arveanor2 votes

I hate nidalee, but this is one of the most braindead posts i've ever seen.

When you see pro teams picking manaless mid's so nid can keep her blues, or nidalee taking tear to keep up with her mana, you can't seriously think nidalee should be considered manaless.

UPfreely1 votes

i feel like they could make her healthier if they gave her form mana costs and then got mana refunds when she triggers hunted on champions. they could do the same to make Elise healthy too. (not the hunted part, just giving her mana costs to balance her power without making her lee sin jungle tier again.)

Jelubi1 votes

All I want to know is why she has a 0 cost Execute skill as her Cougar form Q? Like honestly, I understand that the spear is hard to land but her kit basically guide you to a free kill for landing 1 spear. The spear does huge damage at a low cost, so if it hits you, you are now around 50%-60% health. She is then guided to a long range pounce that will deal some damage, a wide AoE swipe for additional damage and then of course a Execute on low health targets. Its like I understand I took a spear out of the 30 she has thrown 5 minutes into the game, doesn't mean I should be punished for being low health because 1 skillshot finally landed. She can also trap up the entire lane for free super pounce engages and get damage in without having to land the spear first. And any return damage gets healed away within 24 seconds.

Its just a free kill essentially. Spear is meant to get you to half health. Auto lock super pounce + swipe gets you to 25% and then point and click execute. It is way too guided, all she did was finally land a spear and it makes it seem as if she landed the spear, found the engage landed another skill shot and all.

Antonok1 votes

It does have risks on using. To use it she has to commit and in doing so puts her squishy self into melee range. in a 1v1 its not much of a problem, in teamfights it gets her killed. You can also stun/root/knockback/taunt while shes pouncing to you and negate the hunted bonus and likely pick up a kill.

Also, its not a point and click. Its an AA steroid.

But yea, for squishy targets like ADCs and APCs its a free kill, tanks are just going to laugh and kill you. They could stand to remove the AP scaling and leave the AD on it. Thats just a bit overkill.

Honestly its not even the %HP execute. Its the fact she gets AP scaling in addition to AD scaling on it.

Yes, even a nidalee main is saying it could stand to be nerfed a bit

Abyssphere3 votes

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All I want to know is why she has a 0 cost Execute skill as her Cougar form Q? Like honestly, I understand that the spear is hard to land but her kit basically guide you to a free kill for landing 1 spear. The spear does huge damage at a low cost, so if it hits you, you are now around 50%-60% health. She is then guided to a long range pounce that will deal some damage, a wide AoE swipe for additional damage and then of course a Execute on low health targets. Its like I understand I took a spear out of the 30 she has thrown 5 minutes into the game, doesn't mean I should be punished for being low health because 1 skillshot finally landed. She can also trap up the entire lane for free super pounce engages and get damage in without having to land the spear first. And any return damage gets healed away within 24 seconds.

Its just a free kill essentially. Spear is meant to get you to half health. Auto lock super pounce + swipe gets you to 25% and then point and click execute. It is way too guided, all she did was finally land a spear and it makes it seem as if she landed the spear, found the engage landed another skill shot and all.

I don't get how people can complain about this. Like, sure. Nidalee landing a spear once she has a fair bit of AP is a really good kill chance on a squishy. But why shouldn't you be punished for being hit by it? What should Nidalee's reward be if not a kill, given she's an assassin? And if Nidalee landing her really hard to hit initiation shouldn't give her a kill on a squishy, then what of assassins as a whole?

"Taking a spear doesn't mean I should be punished for being low health" Zed hitting R and hovering over you doesn't mean you should die. Akali clicking R doesn't mean you should die. Talon or Katarina hitting E doesn't mean you should die, Ahri landing E doesn't mean you should die, etc, etc. Assassins will kill you and Nidalee has to try harder than every other one in the game. If Nidalee landing her spear shouldn't give her a kill then how do you expect her to do her job when every other assassin can get a free kill just by looking at an opposing squishy?

I Kill Commies1 votes

You go oom in human form pretty fast until you've built mana items.

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