Which team would win? (5v5 Scenario)

iLasVegas·Oct 8, 2016·2 votes·648 views

Team A: Top, Very weak, built a lot of tank items but little damage Jungler, His ganks weren't the best, so he wasn't very far ahead Mid, Fed Early Game, fell behind late game ADC, Good damage, bad positioning Very bad positioning, Tried to 1v1 people numerous times and died

Team B: Top, Weak early but farmed good JG, Fairly good ganks Mid, Fed a lot early, got fed late game ADC, Not good not bad Support, He roamed a lot and had good positioning

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TreeofwarOct 8, 20161 votes

team A would win out in the end since they have better team fight, engage and scaling capabilities

KrullyOct 8, 20161 votes

a all day

Asayake 5150glowOct 8, 20161 votes

Depends on the actual teamfight.

If Team A managed to lock down Ahri/Lucian and burst them before they can do shit, then it goes to A.

With the amount of AoE hard CC team A has, thats not hard. Lucian is a terrible tank killer, so it's up to Jax to take down Nasus. With Teemo's blind and Jax's counterstrike, they should be able to do that without much difficulty. Trist and Lux don't have enough AoE to kill Jax (and Trist is one of the weakest ad carries damage wise), especially with Jax dodge, and since Lux will be focusing Lucian/Ahri.

if Ahri is a god with her ult and dodge practically everything, kill Lux or Trist and not die while they're at it, then it pretty much goes to Team B as long as Jax doesn't die before he can take out Nasus. Assuming Amumu and Nami already blew their major cooldowns, Luci and Thresh should be able to 2v3 Trist/Nami/Amumu since they just don't have enough damage.

If Thresh lands a halfway decent hook, Ahri and Lucian will instantaneously melt that target if it's a squishy. Just hope he doesn't grab Nasus or Amumu and Flay him into the rest of the team.

Generally this is how I'd depict it:

Amumu lands Q on Teemo, Teemo is blown up but all of Lux's CD's are used.

During this, Ahri ult's in and kills Lux.

Nasus throws Wither on Ahri, but Ahri has enough mobility and Trist and Nami not fast enough cc to stop her. Amumu is too far away and has just used his Q cd.

Nami ults to engage (not great, but they have nothing else and no substantial poke). Ult hits everyone except Ahri who is out of the fight for now (cd's and no ult, and also out of position from flanking to kill Lux.) Nasus and Amumu ride the waves into Team B, depending how far away they are Jax either jumps in and starts hammering Nasus or Amumu gets a 3 man ulti.

Thresh goes for the hook on Trist, prob hits since Trist isn't really expecting it (also her positioning sucks).

Lucian melts Trist.

Jax fights Nasus (Amumu is spent, basically nothing left). Jax seems to be winning but a Nami bubble will hit him (he's not moving much, just trying to hit the big dog), depending on stacks of Nasus (I'm assuming low, since you said he does low damage) Jax either dies or is just briefly cc'd.

Jax kills Nasus, Lucian advances to take out Nami, Amumu tries to stop him but is 1: blocked by Thresh and 2: Not enough damage/cc. Jax moves onto the closest target (his q is prob off cd by now), takes out whoever he kills (how long it takes depends on the target, but he does it).

So I think Team B would win since they need less coordination.

Dark NephthysOct 8, 20161 votes

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Depends on the actual teamfight.

If Team A managed to lock down Ahri/Lucian and burst them before they can do shit, then it goes to A.

With the amount of AoE hard CC team A has, thats not hard. Lucian is a terrible tank killer, so it's up to Jax to take down Nasus. With Teemo's blind and Jax's counterstrike, they should be able to do that without much difficulty. Trist and Lux don't have enough AoE to kill Jax (and Trist is one of the weakest ad carries damage wise), especially with Jax dodge, and since Lux will be focusing Lucian/Ahri.

if Ahri is a god with her ult and dodge practically everything, kill Lux or Trist and not die while they're at it, then it pretty much goes to Team B as long as Jax doesn't die before he can take out Nasus. Assuming Amumu and Nami already blew their major cooldowns, Luci and Thresh should be able to 2v3 Trist/Nami/Amumu since they just don't have enough damage.

If Thresh lands a halfway decent hook, Ahri and Lucian will instantaneously melt that target if it's a squishy. Just hope he doesn't grab Nasus or Amumu and Flay him into the rest of the team.

Generally this is how I'd depict it:

Amumu lands Q on Teemo, Teemo is blown up but all of Lux's CD's are used.

During this, Ahri ult's in and kills Lux.

Nasus throws Wither on Ahri, but Ahri has enough mobility and Trist and Nami not fast enough cc to stop her. Amumu is too far away and has just used his Q cd.

Nami ults to engage (not great, but they have nothing else and no substantial poke). Ult hits everyone except Ahri who is out of the fight for now (cd's and no ult, and also out of position from flanking to kill Lux.) Nasus and Amumu ride the waves into Team B, depending how far away they are Jax either jumps in and starts hammering Nasus or Amumu gets a 3 man ulti.

Thresh goes for the hook on Trist, prob hits since Trist isn't really expecting it (also her positioning sucks).

Lucian melts Trist.

Jax fights Nasus (Amumu is spent, basically nothing left). Jax seems to be winning but a Nami bubble will hit him (he's not moving much, just trying to hit the big dog), depending on stacks of Nasus (I'm assuming low, since you said he does low damage) Jax either dies or is just briefly cc'd.

Jax kills Nasus, Lucian advances to take out Nami, Amumu tries to stop him but is 1: blocked by Thresh and 2: Not enough damage/cc. Jax moves onto the closest target (his q is prob off cd by now), takes out whoever he kills (how long it takes depends on the target, but he does it).

So I think Team B would win since they need less coordination.

While I agree with most of what you said, but Tristana 's damage is not one of the weakest adc's. Her damage is very high when used right and can do pretty well into Lucian in a late game team fight assuming one isn't to fed etc plus i'd put her in as one of the safest carries since she has both a jump which resets and her ult for self-peel, though I know I can't add that with this thread since the OP mentioned bad positioning.

In the end, I can see this Tristana probably getting destroyed or just taken out of the fight due to the OP mentioning of bad positioning, so I'm guessing that is basically saying that the Trist is jumping into the enemy team and generally failing.

I still agree with most of what you said, only replying because I feel that people should give respect that Tristana is still very strong and does a lot of damage, sure not the highest but definitely not one of the lowest either.

edit: Unless you were only saying that as she is one of the weakest ADC to fight Jax when he is using his dodge, then I can see it since she really needs to land those auto's to actually deal damage from her E.

Asayake 5150glowOct 8, 20161 votes

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While I agree with most of what you said, but 's damage is not one of the weakest adc's. Her damage is very high when used right and can do pretty well into in a late game team fight assuming one isn't to fed etc plus i'd put her in as one of the safest carries since she has both a jump which resets and her ult for self-peel, though I know I can't add that with this thread since the OP mentioned bad positioning.

In the end, I can see this probably getting destroyed or just taken out of the fight due to the OP mentioning of bad positioning, so I'm guessing that is basically saying that the Trist is jumping into the enemy team and generally failing.

I still agree with most of what you said, only replying because I feel that people should give respect that is still very strong and does a lot of damage, sure not the highest but definitely not one of the lowest either.

edit: Unless you were only saying that as she is one of the weakest ADC to fight when he is using his dodge, then I can see it since she really needs to land those auto's to actually deal damage from her E.

Hmm... well I'm speaking from experience, and Trist doesn't seem to do as much damage when fed as compared to Jinx or Sivir (the other 2 I kinda play). She still hurts, else I wouldn't play her :P

Dark NephthysOct 8, 20161 votes

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Hmm... well I'm speaking from experience, and Trist doesn't seem to do as much damage when fed as compared to Jinx or Sivir (the other 2 I kinda play). She still hurts, else I wouldn't play her :P

Jinx I can understand and agree that Jinx can out damage Trist, though I feel that Trist out damages Sivir, at least in a late game 1v1 instance anyways. If you're talking about overall team fight damage where they need to fight the entire team then yes Sivir does more damage since she can hit multiple enemies with her Q and W.